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Linux's failure as a desktop operating system has prompted Adobe to abandon its direct support for the Linux version of AIR, the Adobe Integrated Runtime, which runs programs such as the BBC's iPlayer and Tweetdeck, a Twitter client. In a blog post today, Adobe's Director of Open Source and Standards said: "we will be focusing on supporting partner implementations and will no longer be releasing our own versions of Adobe AIR and the AIR SDK [Software Development Kit] for desktop Linux". However, since Adobe AIR has itself failed to make a significant impact on the PC market since it was launched in February 2008, it doesn't look as though many people will miss it.

The blog post by Dave McAllister, Focusing on the next Linux client, says: " with the 2.7 release of AIR, we made a decision to prioritize our resources towards a Linux porting kit for AIR, which our Open Screen Project partners can use to complete implementations of AIR for Linux-based platforms."

McAllister says that "way back in 1999" he'd predicted "a significant market for desktop Linux by 2005. (I was targeting better than Mac OS type numbers, in the 10-15% range.)". However, a dozen years later, Netmarketshare's numbers show Linux falling back under the 1 percent level, while Android (which is Linux-based) and Apple's proprietary iOS are showing rapid growth.

"Obviously I was wrong," he says. "So we, Adobe, also need to shift with the market."

A post by Adobe's AIR and Flash Player team holds out some hope for Linux users. It says:

"To support the variety of Linux-based platforms across PCs and devices, we are prioritizing a Linux porting kit for AIR (including source code), which Open Screen Project (OSP) partners can use to complete implementations of AIR for Linux-based platforms on PCs, mobile devices, TVs and TV-connected devices. We will no longer be releasing our own versions of Adobe AIR and the AIR SDK for desktop Linux, but expect that one or more of our partners will do so. The last Adobe release of AIR for desktop Linux is AIR 2.6. By focusing on the porting kit and support of partner implementations, we expect to provide broader support for AIR across Linux-based PCs and devices, whereas our own desktop Linux releases have accounted for less than 0.5% of lifetime AIR downloads."

Adobe has also published a FAQ (PDF) to provide further information.

AIR was launched to provide browserless "Rich Internet Applications" (RIAs) written using Flash, ActionScript and/or HTML/Ajax, with the main appeal being that these would be cross-platform, running on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux. Adobe managed to get AIR installed by bundling it with Adobe Reader, but how much it has been used is open to debate. At the time of writing, the top two Featured Offerings in the Adobe AIR Marketplace were posted on September 27 and October 22 last year, which doesn't suggest there's a lot of vibrant activity.

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"Linux's failure as a desktop operating system..."

Rattle that cage, Jack, rattle that cage!

Jake Rayson 15 June, 2011 18:10
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At last.
Now please stop creating linux flash versions and get out of the internet Adobe.

1% is not enough? Compared to other OSes, linux is mostly used by developers. The market share might not be very impressive, but by not supporting linux you are dropping a bunch of potential developers.

I hope Steve drops support for flash entirely on his platform.

Andrius Bentkus via Facebook 15 June, 2011 18:57
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"Linux's failure as a desktop operating system has prompted Adobe to abandon its direct support for the Linux version of AIR"

This should read as,

Adobe's failure to spark interest among Linux users has prompted the abandonment of support for the Linux version of AIR ;-)

incalizondo 15 June, 2011 20:02
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there's going to be about 4 really angry people out there

Eric Meyer via Facebook 15 June, 2011 20:17
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The only AIR app I've ever used is Tweetdeck. And there's a version of it that runs inside Google Chrome just as well, so I won't miss AIR.

BrownieBoy 15 June, 2011 21:42
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I had a Linux laptop on which I ran Tweetdeck via Air, and it sort of worked. Crucially, it didn't work 100 percent.

What's important to note here, and what comes through very strongly in the post linked to above, is that Linux's mass-market appeal lies in mobile, as Android (yes, I know - argue away about Google's openness) has proven. That's not a slight on Linux in any way, as mobile is where it's at, but it does say where desktop Linux sits at this particular moment.

David Meyer 16 June, 2011 00:11
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Since market share appears to be the the only valid measure of success or failure, should we not all start referring to Windows Phone 7 as "that failed mobile o/s" for here on in?

BrownieBoy 16 June, 2011 00:40
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Brownie Boy

If Windows Phone 7 has the same marketshare as Linux after being on the market for 18 or so years, just like Linux has, then yes WP7 will then be rightly considered to be a failure. But since it is not even 1 year old, it needs more time before it relevant success or failure can be determined.

dechah 16 June, 2011 01:08
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@dechah,

One might argue that being on the market for 18 years, whatever the market share, is some kind of a success! And because of its open source nature, it will still be around 18 years from *now*.

I'm afraid that WP7 won't get that kind of time to prove itself. 18 *months* would be nearer the mark.

BrownieBoy 16 June, 2011 01:33
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Yeah, because the millions of linux users out there don't really need adobe air. They cringe enough seeing flash used on the web. Overall in the next several years the use of both flash and adobe will have shrunk extremely low. They are not known as the great way to do things anymore and our technology has advanced beyond them. Adobe would see a completely different site if they released a version of photoshop for linux.

James Harris via Facebook 16 June, 2011 02:57
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Only thing that fails here is the article writer

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Having used various Linux distro for years and also been a fan of Adobe products, with excitement I gave AIR a try in Linux as soon as it came out - but it was a lot to do about nothing. There was nothing in the AIR market that was of any interest or use. It is as shame that Abobe is blaming their business failure on Linux market share. I agree with James Harris comment relative to photoshop. If Adobe released photoshop; and I also believe Acrobat, in a Linux version they would see a much different result. The key is if a company has a good product. If Adobe would release things that people value in Linux then it would be adopted by the Linux community. Nothing breeds acclaim like quality.

glr 16 June, 2011 13:07
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Linux haven't failed as desktop system but to be popular.

Manoel Carvalho via Facebook 16 June, 2011 13:25
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in economics, they use the term "free entry and exit to the marketplace". this is an example of technology deemed unnecessary or even unacceptable to the consumer. it's merely market efficiency doing what comes naturally.

brutallyfrank 16 June, 2011 13:25
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I wouldn't be surprised to see AIR disappear completely. It didn't take off, and we don't install it at all in corporate environments (even on Windows) because we already deal with enough security updates with Flash and others as it is. It's just not worth it.

Unfortunately Microsoft has succeeded at their game of vendor lock-in so Windows on desktops will be the norm for quite some time, and that's obviously where the focus on proprietary and user-controlling software is at.

apexwm 16 June, 2011 14:58
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I hope you get to liking Windows phone 7 OS since That's what Windows 8 looks like. Seems we are all to start using touch screen pc's and leave behind the mouse and keyboard now.

Alisaunder 16 June, 2011 19:41
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@apexwm
> Unfortunately Microsoft has succeeded at their game of vendor lock-in so
> Windows on desktops will be the norm for quite some time

Why does vendor lock-in matter when anybody can download a copy of Linux and install it for nothing? (Or do it from a cover magazine disc.)

In any case, your excuse falls rather flat because there is no vendor lock-in on desktops (or laptops or servers). Indeed, the US government anti-trust court case against Microsoft absolutely prevents there being any vendor lock in, among other things. (The case resulted in strict pricing rules and hundreds of US government staff monitoring Microsoft on a daily basis, which included reading all Micosoft internal and external emails.)

In fact, every rational person recognises that it is very easy to set up a company selling non-Windows desktops, and one company that sells Unix-based non-Windows desktops has more than $50 billion in the bank! Obviously it doesn't sell Linux-based non-Windows desktops, but there's nothing to stop anyone else doing that, including you.

Do you seriously think that hundreds of millions of Americans are passing up an easy chance to make money? Is this a failure of American capitalism? What's special about Linux that means there's a demand nobody is willing to supply?

@Alisaunder

> Seems we are all to start using touch screen pc's and leave behind
> the mouse and keyboard now.

Not sure if you're joking, but the mouse and keyboard still work fine in Windows 8, as does Office 2010. Indeed, I don't think many people will try to operate that without a mouse and keyboard....

Jack Schofield 16 June, 2011 20:53
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@Jack,

> Why does vendor lock-in matter when anybody can download a
> copy of Linux and install it for nothing? (Or do it from a cover magazine
> disc.)
Sure. All they have to do is wipe their existing Windows install, including, very likely, all their existing data. Either that or they partition up their hard drive to set up a dual-boot. "Here's the CD, granny. Off you go!"

> The US government anti-trust court case against Microsoft absolutely prevents
> there being any vendor lock in, among other things. (The case resulted in strict
> pricing rules..
The U.S. Govt's supervision does nothing to stop MS using its Windows pricing to punish OEMs that don't do its bidding. Try selling a Windows netbook that has more than 1 Gig of RAM or bigger than an 11.1 inch screen, and you'll quickly find this out.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/22/microsoft-publishes-maximum-windows-7-netbooks-specs/

BrownieBoy 16 June, 2011 23:47
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"Why does vendor lock-in matter when anybody can download a copy of Linux and install it for nothing? (Or do it from a cover magazine disc.)"

My point was that Microsoft has succeeded in writing software that is tightly integrated with itself, but not compatible with other platforms, thus keeping customers on their Windows platform for many years, which is one reason why we still see a high percentage of Windows desktops today.

"In any case, your excuse falls rather flat because there is no vendor lock-in on desktops (or laptops or servers). Indeed, the US government anti-trust court case against Microsoft absolutely prevents there being any vendor lock in, among other things. (The case resulted in strict pricing rules and hundreds of US government staff monitoring Microsoft on a daily basis, which included reading all Micosoft internal and external emails.)"

I would have to disagree from a software perspective, as there are still issues even today. An example I ran into the other day was an incompatibility of Sharepoint 2007 with Firefox 4.0. Users using Firefox while trying to edit a document in Sharepoint will get an error "Edit Document requires a Windows Sharepoint Services-compatible application and Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 or greater". Sure, Microsoft could write Sharepoint so that it is cross-browser compatible, but they don't. Obviously, to force users of Sharepoint services to use their IE browser on the desktops as well.

"In fact, every rational person recognises that it is very easy to set up a company selling non-Windows desktops, and one company that sells Unix-based non-Windows desktops has more than $50 billion in the bank! Obviously it doesn't sell Linux-based non-Windows desktops, but there's nothing to stop anyone else doing that, including you."

Apple has done this, that's true. But their market share only spiked when Vista was out and failed. This gave users a purpose and reason to look to other vendors. And has Microsoft attempted to be more compatible with OS X? I guess dropping Services for Mac in Windows Server is a good indication they don't have any plans to.

In theory this could be true, but since Microsoft customers are locked in to the Microsoft platforms, it's very hard to introduce other platforms. Some have migrated, but most do not want to invest the resources. Some do not recognize the hidden expenses of staying in Microsoft platforms, or long term savings by migrating to non-Microsoft platforms.

apexwm 17 June, 2011 21:30
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Adobe had it's long history of failures in porting or maintaining their products. Flash on linux is plagued with issues, 64-bit versions were vaporware, and so on. Remember that in the early days of Ipad/Iphone Apple agreed with Adobe to have a port of Flash Player on their platform and it did not happen.
Most likely Adobe is pointing the fingers at the Linux adoption to mask their own incapacity.

clausundercover 23 June, 2011 07:32
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Hi
Jack

thanks for the article :) good read.

one thing and i DO mean ONE thing lol..

Doesn't Ubuntu use Adobe AIR for Ubuntu One syncing? (I could be wrong) I thought I had to install AIR for Ubuntu One. mmmm

The storage (2GB) for free is good for free, I use it, I like it, shame if we lose it.

Dava

dava4444 25 June, 2011 05:54
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Exactly. I was waiting and waiting for the day Adobe released a 64-bit runtime of AIR for Linux. I was running a 64-bit version of their Flash plugin in my browsers, and the 32-bit AIR runtime and 64-bit plugin was somehow creating incompatibility issues with each other. I loved to use AIR for Hulu and Pandora, plus a few others that I didn't want to open a browser for.

It's a shame. If they had ever released the 64-bit version of AIR for Linux, I have no doubts it would have seen more than 1%.

dyinman 1 August, 2011 00:20
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I don't see Linux as a failure at anything. In fact, it is successful at deployments on every platform it has targeted (that I am aware of). Above all, I think what the real problem is that Adobe developers clearly can not write software targeted for Linux. It took a very long time to get a stable 64-bit Flash. They have dropped support for Adobe AIR and Adobe Flex/Flash Builder; I have never even seen AIR work on Linux, but then again, I only use 64-bit Linux these days. I was deeply considering using the Flex SDK, but I'm struggling trying to find a reason to maintain that course. I think I might try my way with the new JavaFX come next year. This is not impressive Adobe. I also don't like the way you are referring to Linux, Jack. Not professional at all; Linux is not a failure. Microsoft keeps winning but I'm not so sure that it can continue to do so forever. With the major leaps cloud computing is bringing to the table, there is increasingly less need to have a full desktop system. Thinner clients like Google Chrome OS may spoil Microsoft's plans to dominate the operating system industry, especially once they start coupling them with locally-installed cloud apps (e.g. OwnCloud and node.js derivatives). In fact, the only reason I virtualize Windows on my Ubuntu systems is just for Microsoft Office and Adobe Fireworks applications and the very rare web sites that puke when they see an unsupported operating system. Without those few application requirements, I would happily ditch the flag of yesterday entirely. I've been working hard to try to get RemoteApp integrated into my Ubuntu system, but I'm waiting on a more stable FreeRDP. Details are at my blog, daball.me.

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