More Reliability Problems at Skype

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It seems there was another round of connectivity/reliability problems at Skype this past weekend. From their own Heartbeat Blog:

Some of you who've just tried opening Payment In Client window, making a call to Online number, making a purchase or using any other service, may have noticed some difficulties to do so. You may have received some error such as "Internal error" from the web or "Check your connection" from the Skype Client

Of course, as always, the entry concludes with empty promises to investigate and "share information". This is exactly the same empty promise that was made for the entry "Problems signing in, making calls to landlines and mobiles" on Jan 29, and the entry "Sign in server problems" on Jan 21. All three are marked "Resolved", with no additional information provided about how, why or what went wrong. I suppose that Skype's idea of "sharing information" with their "beloved customers" is adding "Resolved" to the blog entry title.

The positive side of this is that these sorts of unexplained problems are making it a lot easier for me to convince my friends who are still using Skype what a load of unreliable rubbish it really is, and to get them to get rid of it.

Of course, I can't tell people "ditch Skype" without an option, so the two places I point them are ooVoo (my favorite, a good product with good support) and TokBox, a newer product that seems to be gaining a good following.

jw 2/2/2010

Talkback

Hmm no Linux client for ooVoo, so that's a complete fail for me. Skype is bad but it at least has some cross-platform support.

rimbaud 2 February, 2010 10:59 Reply

Not only does ooVoo not have a linux client it has no SIP support that I can find. The free service has ads, and if only one person is a paying customer it shows ads to that person, so you don't even know that you have a viagra ad under you.

However evil skype is, they have the basics. Tokbox looks interesting, but shows more signs of being a competitor to webex than skype.

Most SIP providers have horrible borderline unusable interfaces. Skype is very clean.

micheas 5 February, 2010 20:22 Reply

Could I rewind a little bit and enquire how useful you find Skype for, for business networking? Thanks - I only ask because I rarely use it but I was think I was asked about it whilst enrolling for MeetThe Boss. Cheers.

Shibley R 6 February, 2010 15:06 Reply

How useful Skype is depends on your relative rating of performance, reliability, consistency, support, openness and honesty. I'll run down just a few of the considerations here.

Performance - it works, for most people, most of the time. If you are one of those, you may use Skype extensively without ever having a significant problem with it. In this case, count yourself lucky.

Reliability - The most famous example of this, of course, is the four-day world-wide outage Skype had, and never explained. Imagine that you have built your business with Skype as an important part of it, and suddenly it is unusable for four days. How useful does that make it? Skype apologists will try to say that is a "thing of the past", but it continues to happen, mostly not world-wide, although there was another episode of it a week or two ago, which lasted a day or two and was never explained by Skype - unless you consider adding "Resolved" to the title of the entry in the Skype Heartbeat Blog to be an explanation. There was another less extensive episode last week as well.

Consistency - I'm not sure this is the right word for this, but what I am talking about is how they treat their "customers". One good example of this was the "London 0207 number fiasco". Basically what happened was that Skype notified all of their customers who had London 0207 Skype-In numbers that they were being cancelled, with the absolute minimum notice. Period. That was something like 10,000 numbers, the majority of which were most likely businesses. Imagine that you have built your business using a Skype-In number, and suddenly Skype decides to cancel it, and the only "compensation" is a new number in a different prefix. You have business cards, advertising materials, posters, billboards, painted vehicles, and whatever else, all with "YOUR" phone number, and suddenly you have to pay to have it all replaced. Tough beans, Skype says, that's your problem.

Support - If you are going to use Skype in your business, I would assume that you would be interested in being able to get some support when something goes wrong. Skype provides a chat/VoIP/Video service - but there is no support contact via any of their own services. Nor is there support via traditional phone, or fax, or email. None. The only way to "contact" support is via an online web-ticket system, which has a MINIMUM response time of FOUR DAYS, and an "real" response time that varies between weeks and never. This is regardless of whether you are seeking technical support for functional problems, or commercial support for billing problems, or because your Skype account has been hacked and the credit drained from it.

Openness - Skype boasts that communications using their product are "secure", because they are encrypted. But they seldom mention that they cooperated with the Chinese authorities to create a special version (TOM Skype) which, even when they admitted to it, supposedly allowed "censorship" of conversations. It was subsequently discovered by Canadian researchers that the Chinese had actually been tapping and recording conversations. When confronted with this information, Skype said they were "very concerned" - not that the Chinese had been doing that, but that they had been storing the recorded data on unsecure servers. Is this the kind of company that you want to use as an important part of your business?

Honesty - Several of the above examples can be considered in the category of "honesty". Here is another. Skype loves to hype their "500 Million Registered Users", or whatever the ridiculous, outlandish number they are spewing these days may be. They have made this a textbook case of "if you repeat something often enough and loud enough, it will eventually be accepted as fact". Look under the covers a bit, and you find that number is in fact the total number of accounts which have been opened since the absolute beginning if Skype. It is difficult and tedious, at the very least, to "close" an account - the normal, accepted and encouraged procedure is to simply "abandon" a Skype account. That suits their purposed just fine, because then that account still counts as one of their "500 million". It also includes the massive number of accounts that are created on a daily basis by the spammers, swindlers and pornographers who infest Skype space, and are used once, or perhaps for one day, and then abandoned. The best guess of actual "real" Skype accounts is somewhere around 10% of the number that they spout - still a very respectable number, no doubt, but what does it say about "honesty" when they insist on knowingly spreading such misleading information?

So, how "useful" is Skype for business networking? Think about these things which have happened in the past, and decide for yourself how dependent you can afford to make your business on it.

jw 7/2/2010

J.A. Watson 7 February, 2010 09:34 Reply

Many thanks, for this extremely helpful comment. Some of the insights are quite revealing about the deeper philosophy behind Skype, and very intriguing from the practical perspective of the question originally asked: how useful Skype is for business networking. From your answer, I take it that Skype is used by very many different people to do very diverse things, but Skype can be used by businesses to their individual needs or requirments, akin to using an ordinary telephone or fax machine. Many thanks most of all for a brilliant comment jw.

Shibley R 7 February, 2010 15:40 Reply

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