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Talkback
I agree with the point in that a knowledgeable staff should be on hand for migrating to open source software. It takes a learning curve and patience, and resources to use it. And yes, it is true that changes are made that are not necessarily due to business reasons, as you mention. If you apply this to GNU/Linux specifically, my advice is to use a more conservative distribution like Red Hat (or CentOS, the free Red Hat alternative). Releases are maintained for years, not months like more cutting edge distributions like Fedora. Also, upgrades are generally smooth going from version to version.
With proprietary software, users are forced to follow along with how the software vendor sees things. If the software vendor chooses to drop support for a particular version, the users are not immediately forced to upgrade, but will eventually if they want to keep support. Open source gets around this problem as the source is available and older versions can be used and built upon for many years afterward.
I still have access to systems that are running Red Hat Linux 7.1 (circa 2001). They still run just fine just as the day they were installed, and when we need new software installed on them it needs to be compiled for that platform (unless there are binary packages available which in this case there are at the DAG repository). This takes more knowledge than normal, but it can be done. And in 5 years from now, it can still be done. Nobody can force users of open source to use the software a certain way.
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Hi
wow @ Rupert & apexwm
I liked reading both your posts.
@Security
I'll throw this out there...
I was talking to a guy a few months ago, who had build a heavy duty home network and he suggested to me, changing file system to obscure an one increased his security. well, that got me thinking... what if.. you could recompile a kernel (as per MOL http://www.maconlinux.org/) on an unusual file system that could dish out http etc, and only be a direct access PC Server (access to the box itself). otherwise it does not take commands kind of thing.
I'll admit I know nothing about coding, but a server designed to have a panel on the box and ONLY threw that panel can you be root, sounds sensible to me. Chip based security.
and tie the whole thing up as a secure server?
and @ Rupert, yeah enterprise is tricky, they (enterprise) want ten years out of you at least, and FOSS doesn't work that way with propriety. but hey, remember that bad old days, not so long ago? no drivers... the community coders having to do it themselves. but as WE (the FOSS community) come closer and closer to our goal of acceptance, we need to compromise. I feel this is factual, because if you can't play nice with the other companies you're either the bully or the outcast.. and we have already been the outcast...
peace
Dava
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I agree with your main point, Rupert. Another example is - believe it or not - Ubuntu Server. I installed a copy two years ago on a headless server and left it to run.
From an enterprise perspective, no management required is the best kind of management. And the server in question didn't need management until I noticed that it could no longer update, remove and generally herd applications. Turns out this version is no longer supported, the repositories seem to have been moved, and I'm left with two choices: either do a fork-lift upgrade to another system, or painstakingly figure out where the repos have gone and re-insert their locations into the right files.
So it's a fork-lift upgrade then, and the replacement won't be Ubuntu Server.
I'm always surprised when people lump all "open source" projects together, as if that characteristic dominates everything and anything else.
The PostgreSQL database project has long pursued a high quality, very stable release policy where the stability is much more important than the release date - although we have managed to release roughly annually for most of the last 10 years. We've done that because not-losing-data is probably the single most important thing for a database, and sorry doesn't cut it. We are well aware that attitude is not shared by some, which makes us even more insistent on differentiating ourselves against people that seem unaware of security, stability and robustness requirements for enterprise grade software.
PostgreSQL project support is 5 years on all releases, longer with commercial options, with regular maintenance releases for security and others fixes throughout that time (Our oldest supported version, 8.2 (from 2006) has just hit its 21st maintenance release, for example).
The new PostgreSQL 9.1 release will support synchronous replication, allowing very high levels of availability - yet applications written more than a decade ago still run happily against it.
Don't let broad characterisations cloud your judgement on software choice. There is much good and bad in both commercial and open source software. Expensive doesn't mean better, and Free doesn't mean unstable or shoddy. The internet only exists because of the low-cost of ownership, open source software on which it runs.
Based on the feedback to this post, my advice would be to choose the best GNU/Linux distribution for the purpose. For a server, a distribution like CentOS is better suited because it is supported and updated for years from its initial release date. For a desktop, other distributions like Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat, Suse, are better candidates because they contain more current software but have a shorter lifecycle. However, upgrades can be done along the way while preserving user data.
Think it's going to be FreeNAS or Nexenta for me...
@rupert: Thank you for the excellent post. Deciding when to change is always difficult, having to evaluate the benefit/disruption formula. "Change through need" has a nice ring though, could almost be a mantra...
@Simon Rigg puts his finger on it: "not-losing-data is probably the single most important thing for a database", which coupled with 'not-losing-time' is kind of applicable across the board.
I would like to vote for ClearOS! A stripped down version of CentOS with a web-based admin system. Used to be called ClarkConnect.
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