Missing GPL detail may make it harder to enforce

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The GPL may be difficult to enforce due to a lack of clarity over who owns the copyright to the software, according to a legal expert on Monday.

Lucie Guibault, an assistant professor of intellectual-property law at the Institute for Information Law in Amsterdam, said at the Holland Open Software Conference in Amsterdam, that the GPL should clarify who is the author of the software to ensure that open source software distributed under this licence receives legal protection.

The copyright of the actual text of the GPL is owned by the Free Software Foundation, but the author owns the copyright to the GPL-licensed software. Authors that wish to release their software under the GPL are advised to include a line in the source code stating "Copyright © [name of author]". Guibault told ZDNet UK that it may not be enough to have the copyright statement in the code.

If the author of GPL-licensed product discovers that a company has not adhered to the terms and conditions of the licence, the individual may find it difficult to argue his case in court as the defending party could argue that the copyright appears to belong to the Free Software Foundation, according to Guibault.

"The only name that appears on the licence is the Free Software Foundation — they appear to be the licensor," she said.

But Richard Stallman, the founder of the Free Software Foundation and the author of the GPL, claimed that even if this is a problem in the Netherlands, it will not affect free software elsewhere.

"If free software licenses are not valid in the Netherlands, copyright law still applies, so the result could be that no one is allowed to distribute or change free software there. However, the FSF will continue to respect everyone's right to do so," said Stallman.

"Whatever happens in the Netherlands, it won't be a disaster for free software in general. If the Netherlands has put something foolish in its laws, it will just have to fix their laws to do the right thing," Stallman added.

Harald Welte, the founder of GPL-violations.org, said in an interview in March that he is able to take legal action against companies that have violated the GPL as he is the author of the GPL-licensed software that companies have misappropriated.

"Most of the violations we're seeing are happening in the embedded market," said Welte. "They are running the Linux kernel and I have copyright on parts of the Linux kernel. In the cases that went to court, it was me as an individual copyright holder [against the company in question]."

Although Welte has been successful every time he has accused a company of violating the GPL, Guibault claimed that he is primarily relying on the goodwill of companies to settle copyright violations out of court. Welte has so far negotiated about 30 out-of-court settlements, three preliminary injunctions and one court order. None of the cases has ever gone to trial, but if this happened the case could go either way, according to Guibault.

"The accused party could say — the only party I dealt with [in the licence agreement] was the Free Software Foundation," said Guibault. "The author of the software could probably argue their way out of it, but it depends on the judge."

The solution to this issue would be relatively simply matter of adding the name of the software author to the licence agreement, said Guibault. She said at the conference that the Mozilla Public License is better in this respect as it makes it clear who owns the software.

"It is technically very easy to correct this," said Guibault. "Mozilla may be one of most clearest examples [of an open source licence] — you can put you own name there as a developer or contributor. Users of the software don't have to look everywhere to see who grants the licence."

One UK legal expert said that Guibault's argument was effectively an issue of evidence, rather than law.

"If I write a piece of software (not as an employee) I am the copyright owner whether or not my name appears on the software or its packaging," said Joel Barry, a partner at legal firm Olswang.

"I get the right to prevent certain forms of misuse prohibited by copyright law. Evidentially if I put my name and the date on the software/packaging that creates a legal presumption under UK law that I am the owner and that the date is the date of creation. If I do not then I need to prove this as a matter of fact."

"If I release my software under a licence (e.g. the GNU licence) then I permit certain uses under that licence. If someone misuses my software I have to prove (i) I am the owner of the copyright in the software, that (ii) the misuse is a breach of the law and (iii) that is it not permitted under the licence. Strictly speaking the defendant must prove point (iii) - i.e. that he has a defence under the licence," Barry explained.

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This is obvious bunk.. dreamt up by those who wish to 'legally' violate the license. There is no need for a person (or corporation) to know who owns a peice of code when the license (attached to the code) shows the requirements on how that code may be used. The only reason to 'need' to know the owner is to enable the 'knower' to decide whether or not they may 'safely' violate the copyright. Ie, is the codes owner too large/wealthy to trample all over.

In addition, it is obvious from a reading of the GPL that the FSF does NOT own the copyright on all software the GPL is applied to. Only those who value trickery more than truth would even think of this line of thinking.

When will people realize that the GPL was designed to prevent the tricksters/theives from usurping code that is not theirs while allowing those who play fair to benefit from playing fair. You can share.. but you can't take for yourself..

via Facebook 1 June, 2005 22:40
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This "lawyer" is a blithering idiot. The GPL FAQ (http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html) explicitly tells you to put your own copyright notice on any GPL'd source.

He should have done sixty seconds research before opening his mouth and displaying his idiocy.

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 02:25
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Stupid, stupid article. There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER who owns the copyright on almost all GPL'd projects. It says so right there in the source code.

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 03:05
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I heartily agree. The author should have read the "how to apply this licenese to my work" paragraph, and suddenly all of his article is redundant or false.

Evil intent or incompetence?

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 04:59
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Seems to me that if an infringing company claims the Free Software Foundation is the licencor then they're screwed. Since the FSF has no legal right to grant a license for something they don't own the copyright to, the argument would indicate that the license is void. In which case copyright law kicks in and almost any usage becomes infringement.

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 08:45
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It seems to me that it doesn't matter who owns the copyright. If the entity using the work as their own doesn't hold it they are in breech whoever actually wrote it.

It's just that the usual thing would be for the owner to persue the infringing party - but as we can see with record companies it doesn't have to be the author or artist who actually does that.

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 13:31
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The instructions to insert a copyright notice are not simply in the GPL FAQ, they are in the GPL itself. See the section "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs" which explicitly says to insert "Copyright (C) <year> <name of author>" lines in the code.

This "lawyer" apparently didn't even read to the end of the GPL. Don't forget that blame also falls on the journalist for (like so many journalists today) just reporting quotes from two sides without bother to check on the *facts*.

via Facebook 2 June, 2005 17:41
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if no copyright is presant save gpl or even excluding gpl then teh default is free for all.
if the code is atempted to be or has ben copyrited then only that the code exsisted somewhere else before the copyright needs to be shown along with the code date and a printout showing that no copyright was includid in the code to asure that the code falls under gpl or the default free
otherwise he must disprove that he copyed the code
copyright only aplyes to code that was created by the programmer
like how dll,s wer handled
or layout
copyrighting the part of the code that can be provin is origional to the coder

the problem is teaching judjes and juries about what coding is and what c++ or Java or whatever limits the programmer to
if u want to know what i think
well
the patent on conducters is over
the pattent on code commands is thrue
so all code in its bace forme shuld be considered gpl
like this
you pay for a dictionary
but
the words and definitios belong to us all for free
the package is what we are paying for
the fredom from the hastle to gather the information is what we pay for.

via Facebook 6 June, 2005 08:59
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