Do video games make children violent?

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ANALYSIS

A key sequence in "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" requires the player to steal a police SWAT team tank, machine gun rival gang members and incinerate employees of a rival crack dealer -- all acts covered by the "Mature" rating prominently displayed on each copy of the video game.

That rating, however, hasn't stopped countless underage players from picking up virtual Uzis in the latest GTA instalment, the top-selling video game of 2004. Certain advocacy groups say exposure to such material makes kids more aggressive and desensitises them to real-world violence, an argument that's winning increasing support from lawmakers in the United States looking to ban the sale of such games to children.

The issue is become a political football, with lawmakers and advocacy groups arguing that the government must protect children if the game industry can't or won't. The debate only gets more confusing with publicity surrounding cases such as that of Devin Thompson, an Alabama teen who claims that a previous version of "Grand Theft Auto" inspired him to kill three police officers when he was 16.

The families of two of the slain officers sued "Grand Theft Auto" publisher Take-Two Interactive Software and several other parties last week, claiming the game "trained and motivated" Thompson to pull the trigger. Thompson reportedly told police, "Life is a video game. You've got to die sometime," before he opened fire.

Legislatures in at least six American states are considering new proposals that would make it a crime to sell mature games to children, despite the failure of previous legislation to pass judicial scrutiny. Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat, lobbied for his version in a recent State of the State address, in which he equated violent games with pornography, liquor and cigarettes. "We shouldn't allow them [children] to go to stores and buy video games that teach them to do the very things we put people in jail for," he said. "Buying these games should be up to parents -- not kids."

And San Francisco Assemblyman Leland Yee, also a Democrat, introduced a new bill in Sacramento last week that seeks to impose a fine of up to $1,000 on individuals who sell violent video games to anyone under 17 years of age.

Game publishers say they already have a ratings system that gives parents all the information they need while allowing game makers to exercise their free-speech rights.

"I have a 14-year-old son, and it's part of my job as a parent to find out what's in a certain movie or TV program or game," said Gail Markels, senior vice-president and general counsel for game industry trade group Entertainment Software Association. "I don't need a law being passed that mandates that."

Thompson, the teen who inspired the lawsuit against Take-Two, got hold of "Grand Theft Auto" well before the recommended age of 17 prominently displayed on the game as part of a ratings system the game industry set up in 1994 to address concerns about increasingly realistic depictions of violence and other objectionable content in games. The Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) assigns each game submitted to it a suitability rating -- ranging from "E" for "everyone" to "A" for "adult -- with additional details on why the game received its rating. The list for "GTA: San Andreas" includes: "blood and gore", "intense violence", "use of drugs" and "strong sexual content".

Most retailers, including the chain stores that account for the bulk of game sales, say they restrict sales based on the ratings. A 14-year-old who wants the "Mature"-rated "GTA: San Andreas", for example, presumably would need a parent to buy it for them.

But enforcement of policies varies widely. New York City Councilman Eric Gioia said that in his own recent investigation of New York stores, he found no significant barriers to pre-teens buying M-rated games.

Adrian Fenty, a member of the Washington DC City Council who recently introduced legislation that would ban the sale of violent and sexually explicit games to minors, said the game industry's current rating system doesn't go far enough.

"It's a rating system without any penalties," Fenty said. "It's like any other law that doesn't have any teeth -- it just doesn't accomplish what it's supposed to."

The ESA's Markels said that while her organisation and the ESRB continue to educate retailers on the proper application of game ratings, independent surveys show they're already about as effective as movie theatre owners in preventing kids from sneaking into R-rated movies. "The last survey found enforcement was at a 66 percent level, about the same level as theatre owners' enforcement," she said. "I think the fact we're up to that level in such a short period of time indicates we're taking this very seriously."

Talkback

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 15:10
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Turkey GObbles

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 16:54
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DON'T DO DRUGS!! THEY KILL

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 16:57
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I think it should be 16.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 18:36
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i hate the grand theft auto games even tho i never played it t is stupid.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 19:27
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This ban thing is bull crap. Mostly all that stuff is caused by bad parenting. People should be able to play any game they want. It's the parents responsibility to make sure things like Columbine don't happen.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 22:39
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Q: Do video games make children violent?

A: you bet

Fancy talking about McDonald's and how it effects the brain, or do you believe its good ol' holsom food?!

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 22:55
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I think it is pathetic that you blame video games for the crap kids do. When a kid does something wrong it has to be the game he or she is playing or the movie he or she is watching. Have you ever thought it could be BAD PARENTING! I have been playing violent video games and watched some of the most wacked out movies for as long as i can rememeber, and do to GOOD PARENTING and tough rules or strict rules if you want to call it that, im fine. If parents actually cared about their children and watched them they wouldnt let them play a game that is violent or let them watch a violent movie, until they feel the kid is old enough. Yeah i know parents are not always around, but when they come home and they catch them doing something they are not suppose to be doing, thats when its the parents job to disciplin them. If people would open there eyes for one second they might see its bad parenting that is the cause not video games and movies. Its the parents job to teach them right from wrong, good from bad, if they cannot teach their kids those type of things they shouldnt be a parent! That's just the way i feel about all the crap people say about video games and or movies. Always point the finger and blame somebody else, never want to take responsability for maybe just maybe bad parenting skills!

via Facebook 25 February, 2005 04:44
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I could not agree more with those posts about bad parenting. Look people, we're all tired of this debate - the facts are simple.

Violent video games do no more to a child than violent movies, violent tv shows, etc. The fact is, we live in a violent society. Our legislature "patches" things, rather than fixes them.

If anyone cares to actually fix this problem, we need to recognize the following:

PLACE THE BLAME WHERE APPROPRIATE:

1. Only in America could this happen without anyone asking why the hell the kid had a gun to begin with. Why should we have stronger legislation over video games than we do over guns? Obviously if a child can get a hold of a weapon, does anyone seriously think acquiring a video game would be a stretch?

2. Only in America could this happen without anyone questioning the parents. Guess what, parenting is tough - if you can't handle it - don't have a kid. The fact of the matter is, most parents are awful parents. Parenting adults LOVE to make excuses as to their shortcomings (and to convince themselves that they are a good parent). The fact is, if you ever hear yourself saying "I'm at work all day..," or "I'm a single parent...," or "I can't control them all of the time...," then guess what? Chances are, you're one of the 'bad parents' everyone loves to talk objectively about. If you are a good parent, you have open communication with your child, you have instilled in them a sense of discipline and honesty, and you know where they are and what they're doing at ALL TIMES. No excuses.

So what is the solution? It's simple. Pass parenting legislature. More specifically, make it into law that parents are DIRECTLY responsible for the actions of their children until they are 18. How about that? If your kid goes and kills three policemen (a horrible tragedy), then YOU go to prison.

How about we make a real law, at the heart of the problem, with some real teeth. Some real accountability for the actions of our society. The fact is, this would never pass, but not because it isn't a good idea, but because we would end up sending thousands (maybe millions?) of parents to prison.

In every case like this (Columbine, Arkansas, etc.), how come I know the names of the video games involved, but not the names of the parents? Why does the media spend all of its airtime attacking the games industry, instead of the parents? In my mind, they could have prevented these acts.

3. "What ever happened to crazy?" -Chris Rock. Repeat that line a couple of times to let it sink in. Look at the statistics: well over 99.9% of video gamers are not commiting these crimes. Since when did the 0.1% of society dictate the laws of the many? The fact is, at least 0.1% of our society is violent, and commits violent crimes. We need a way to combat this problem at its source (which is parenting), rather than merely patching the symptoms.

via Facebook 25 February, 2005 17:01
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NO!!!! Kids just say that to get themselves out of trouble because they know people will believe them i have grand theft auto and im 14 so does most of the people at school and it dont make any one do crazy things its just a game! How can virtual people make kids do anything? they know that what they do on games isnt real!

via Facebook 26 February, 2005 18:39
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Absolute crap. Video games are used as an excuse for bad parenting. I have been gaming since I was 5 and I have felt no side effects or personality changes.

However I am in favour of clearer age restrictions on certain games. I understand how the current system can confuse parents and I would like to see the same system applied to games as is applied to films.

via Facebook 28 February, 2005 13:21
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i am 13 yrs old and my parents wont let me buy an 18 rated game and im annoyed.
my parents seem to think after i play it overnight ill seem to want to buy an uzi and start shooting people and trying to escape the police. I mean, come on, i feel i am mature enough not to do that for my sake

via Facebook 2 March, 2005 19:42
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No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have played on the GTa games and other 18 rated games and have suffered no side effects.

via Facebook 2 March, 2005 19:44
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I have a WAY WAY better place to put the game than the video games or video game industry.

1.) The parents who buy their underage children the game
2.) The parents who fail to monitor what games their children are playing
3.) The parents who fail to teach their children the difference between reality and fantasy


Spend some time with your kids instead of dumping them in fron to the nearest screen. Todays society is so quick to blame and kind of media on teen violence. However is that the real problem? NO. a normally adjusted and healthy teen can still enjoy graphic movies and video games without going on a murderous rampage.

The real problem is the neglect of todays society to raise its children the way that generations upon generations have before us. But I guess pointing the finger away from the real issue and onto the video game industry is a lot easier, right?

via Facebook 4 March, 2005 16:17
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Games do NOT make children violent. Sure it causes a rush, but nothing more. If you are unable to determine what's real and what isn't, then you probably shouldn't be playing the game. Companies have free speech, just like anyone else. They can make these games, it's up to parents to regulate what their children play. I play tons of video games and never once have I been inspired to go out and do some violent act just because of the fact that I saw it in a game I played. Yes, I've played my fair share of violent games, and I think that the rating they earn on their cover does suit them. They get mature ratings for a reason, because they are created for a mature audience. It's not the companies fault that the ratings are being enforced. You can't go and sue a gaming company because you were too stupid to pay attention to what your kid is playing. YOU have to be the adult, YOU have to tell your kid what they can and can't play. The clerk doesn't know your child like you do. YOU have to be responsible for it.

This doesn't mean that kids are made violent by a game, but if you don't want them playing it, then get rid of it or don't let them have it in the first place. If you don't agree with something on TV you don't just sit there and watch it, you turn it off or you don't watch it to begin with. Don't punish responsible gamers and the companies for your own mistakes.

via Facebook 10 March, 2005 21:11
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jeebus.....some people are wack.....make that a lot of people n this world are wack wackos....\/\/4444c|<000000 heheh GTA does NOT make people violent...i mean....i first played it when i was 14 and now(im 15 now) ask any of my friends....im even more passive than i was before....aaand i play counter strike almost everyday and im pretty good if i may say so myself...^_^;;...the whole game is based on little skirmishes on different maps and the main point is usually to eliminate the oppposing force...just get a few headshots and you win!....so many games nowadays are like that...and i know tons of people who play them...i dunno any that have assaulted their teachers or something....

via Facebook 10 March, 2005 22:23
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Video games don't make children violent. I have been playing video games for 15 years, I'm 17 right now. I was playing Mortal Kombat in front of my parents and they never did anything because I know it's a video games and I shouldn't do the things portrayed in the video games. I have played the Grand Theft Auto: 3, Vice City and SA. These games don't even make me think of doing a violent act because I know it's stupid to shoot at anyone especially if it's a cop.

Kids just say that so they get out of the trouble and blaim Rockstar the makers of GTA or other game companies just so they can get out of the trouble and Rockstar gets all the trouble. Violent video games don't make you violent, it's just an excuse these so called "experts" and parents use.

via Facebook 16 March, 2005 16:04
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i think its bull shit

via Facebook 18 March, 2005 16:49
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Video games are made for entertainment. People who play the games like doing what you have to do. I support video game violence because sometimes it's a great way to release anger into a virtual person rather than into a real person. What I don't like is that parents let their kids play game like Gran Theft Auto:: San Andreas. I hear all the time 9 year old kids talking about it. Seriously, a game like that isn't the greatest game for a 9 year old to play. I'm also disturbed on how parents are letting their kids play a game where the F-word is said repeatidly while running around in gangs shooting people. This is no problem for a mature gamer that knows it's just a game meant for entertainment and not meant to have little kids play it.

By the way: San Andreas is way overrated.

via Facebook 25 March, 2005 23:44
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NO, VIDEO GAMES DON'T MAKE KIDS VIOLENT. All you parents need to get your heads out of the sand. I'm 15 years old and I have a pack of cigarettes in my jacket right now. Let's compare that to video games...I can go into Walmart, Target, Best Buy wherever tha fuck I want and buy a mature game. There is no way I could buy a pack of cigs all by myself. And yet I've got them in my jacket pocket. This proves that I'm gonna do what it takes to get some cigs. And If you faggots ban a video game from people under 17, imma still get that mothafucka when it comes out. I'm jus keepin' it real, that's how it is. I've got a knife in my jacket pocket too, you fake-ass bitches wanna blame that on GTA San Andreas? That game won GAME OF THE YEAR and you think you can fuck with it? You some dumb lil bitches. Heres a word to parents, your kid probably smokes, probably drinks, and (LIKE ME) might have even knocked a bitch up. I ain't proud of tha shit I've done, but I kno who I am and I accept it. The sooner you parents accept your kids decisions the better. That pussy who shot 3 pigs(COPS) can go fuck off, sueing GTA. Is he retarted?(OBVIOUSLY) If I ever saw that cocksucker I'd throw him through a window and slit his throat. Anywayz, Just stop ur bitching and enjoy life, it's too short to be bitchin' bout things that won't EVER change. And that's it, ya'll keep it real,

Peace,

MIke Jones

via Facebook 29 March, 2005 16:27
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we are doin a debate. and we are on the side that says that they do not affect kids today. Can you tell us some of your views that are on our side?
thanks

via Facebook 30 March, 2005 15:52
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Personally, idk wtf you guys are trying to accomplish. seriously? Im 15 and beat people to death with dildos in san andreas, but im not gunna kill some other guy. you know why? IM NOT REATARDED honestly youd have to be a mental fuucking retarded to pull that shit. quit your bitchin and stop tryin to fuck with shit you CANT CHANGE.

via Facebook 5 April, 2005 14:57
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ITS SILLY TO BLAM GTA because its the parnents fualt dfor buying it for child which 10 or 13 not the game

via Facebook 7 April, 2005 14:10
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NoOOOoOOo! iam 15 and i have been playing 18 rate games and its silly to blam gta of anything

via Facebook 7 April, 2005 14:12
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i doing a debate and i need information plz mail me at kdn421@yahoo.com if you think kids should watch violent moives. i mean what is so worng with violent movies. we would just watch crappymoviesa like those kids movies they make. movies like master and comander is blloody and gross and stuff but they aren't blood and make kids go out to see and comet suicide.

via Facebook 15 April, 2005 03:10
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I think that some games are cool but if your under the age limit then you should not be playing the game.also i do think that games do effect the way you act.so that is why it is good to pick a good or fun game not with all of the sex and violents.

via Facebook 19 April, 2005 18:04
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Dear to all the idiots that believe that video games make people kill in real life,
I've been playing violent video games since I was I got my first game system ever since I first was shown DOOM ( I was about 8 0r 10 yrs. old and now I'm almost 20) and I have NEVER EVER felt like that I've wanted to go outside and kill someone with a shotgun or any other weapon. Instead of feeling like I want to go out and kill someone in real life when I play a video game for instance say Halo 1&2 for XBOX it doesn't make me feel like I want to go kill someone it actually gets rid of all my stress and anger that I've had that day and makes me feel better not because I've just killed someone but because I've just found a way to get rid on my problems without paying any shrink or any other doctor and paying them hundreds of dollars for something that I could do for free.Ine example is one time I was playing Turok and I put the controller down for one second (without pausing game) and when I came back I pick up the controller and some dinosaur creature just in front on my screen and scared my and because of reflex in my finger I shot him with my shotgun that I had with explosive shells inside of it and when I shot him all of his limbs and his head were blown off of his torso and his head just stayed in mid air for a few seconds and squirted out blood and I thought that was the best thing I've ever seen and I've wanted to see if I could do that again but only in the video game and NOT in real life. Sincerly,Christie

via Facebook 26 April, 2005 18:20
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no at lest not me I play violent video games but i am sweat and gentle.

via Facebook 27 April, 2005 17:21
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If the stores that sell the video games just hand the "R" rated games to minors, they shouldn't be selling games at all. Also, there are books that give you a choice on what happens next. Some of the choices involve shooting someone or blowing up a building or bus full of people.

via Facebook 10 May, 2005 17:26
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All these people who say they dont make children violent are just not educated enough to realise the dangers. Try either having kids of your own, or reading some really good psychology books. That's if you can even read. I do not believe any responsible parent would actually buy a game that was not entirely suitable for their children, and people who do are just stupid. Children do suffer adverse affects from violent video gaming e.g. GTA, and it does give them a desensitisation affect on their own perception of real-life violence. Basically, it does them harm, and make them more aggressive.

via Facebook 17 May, 2005 12:26
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YES!!!!! To the majority of responsible adults out there, not people who spend their days on games consoles. Video games for anyone who is over the age of 18 are unlikely to have an effect on their violence, and you when you were 10 probably did not know it but trust me you would have suffered some affects. Just because you believe that you did not, does not mean that you did not. Ask your parents or old teachers. Video games especially highly violent ones do affect children and are harmful, lets quickly put it into perspective;
The Exorcist (film), banned when it first screened in england for violence and gore. Certificate when allowed to be screened 18.
DOOM 3 (game), toted as the most graphically violent game ever, and hailed by gamers as the gories scariest game ever made. Certificate 18, ever banned....NO!
Would you show your nine or ten year old child The Exorcist? No but you would buy them a game which is marketed on the fact that it is highly violent, and in which your child is put in the drivers seat of this violence. The sensible answer is NO you should not, the stupid un-educated answer is "yeah man i played violent games when i was young, why shouldnt my kid?" I think that if you say you did not suffer any effects, that kind of answer tells me that you definately did.

via Facebook 17 May, 2005 12:40
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MY NAME IS ADAM I THINK THAT SCREEN BASED MEDIA DOSE HAVE A EFFECT ON CHILDREN

via Facebook 16 September, 2005 11:56
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Drugs kill not video games

via Facebook 10 October, 2005 02:04
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I think that playing any type of video games, watching tv, or playing on the computer makes people irritable not totally violent but just really irritable (if they have been doing those things for more than 2 hours)!!! I'm 15 and I watch tv and play on the computer a lot and i do notice that when I've been doing these things for too long that i get really irritable toward people and i don't even mean to....i just do it without thinking....

via Facebook 11 October, 2005 21:17
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Video games do not promt kids to be violent.

Its there peirs. If you have scarcely any friends and everyone makes it there business to humiliate you and embarrass you and harrass you on a daily bases, and you cant talk to your parents or teachers about it because no one believes that you problem is serious or important enough to take the time out of there busy lives to address you, or if kids believe that there problems are so complex that no one will understand, they turn to violence because they dont know what else to do.

via Facebook 11 October, 2005 21:31
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Violent video games make children for violent. I disagree, Children do not get any more violent then they all ready from video games.
People are naturally violent, there are people out there who have never played video games and become mass murderers and terrorists! The point is video games don’t inspire people to be violent.
Video games are a great way to irradiate the violent tendencies of youth. Instead of getting angry and attacking a real person, they can take the frustrations of the day out on a virtual character, maiming them to the child’s delight.Children my become irritable after playing a video game, but all video games have this effect, not just violent ones. It’s how you cope when you become irritable that determines the effect of the irritability. If the kids are not taught that violence is bad, violent video games will have an effect, because IT’S THE ONLY THING THEY LEARN. So it’s parenting to blame, not the games.

via Facebook 13 October, 2005 20:59
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I agree with these comments. These 'lawmakers' are seriously underestimating a childs sense of reality. I seriously don't belive that graphics on video games have advanced enough for children to not be able to tell the difference between a person and a video game character. Most of them are pretty box shaped anyway!

How can people seriously blame a video game when if the parents think it is too violent they can just NOT buy it maybe!. If a parent seriously thinks that a child is old enough to play an 18 when they are 10 they need their head testing!

via Facebook 1 December, 2005 09:12
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VIDEO GAMES DO NOT CAUSE PEOPLE TO ACT VIOLENT, IF YOU CANT SEPERATE YOUR SELF FROM THE 3D WORLD AND THE REAL WORLD THEN THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG. NO VIDEO GAME DO NOT CAUSE KIDS TO ACT VILOENT, ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE IF SOMEONE HAD A BAD DAY AT SCHOOL THEY CAN COME HOME AND TAKE OUT THERE ANGER ON THE VDEO GAME.

via Facebook 19 December, 2005 14:47
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I dont think that it is the video games that make people do stupid stuff. If parents have such a big problem with the violent video games or the car stealing or whatever else then they shouldnt buy them the games

via Facebook 4 January, 2006 21:37
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I don't feel like these things need to be enforced. If the parents lack the skills to handle the things their children use and see, that's their fault. We shouldn't suffer for their mistakes. Besides, I play violent, mature rated games all the time, and I'm not 17. I don't feel like going out and killing people, stealing cars, taking drugs, etc. All of these government jerkoffs are trying to take away everything good that we still have. For instance, they tried to get rid of rock music, due to one album. They also tried to get rid of comics, though that was a while ago. But, now they're trying to get rid of something which was already handled a while ago.
Oh, and to the people who sold them the games: keep doing it. Fight back against this ridiculous, cheuvanistic display of rage against something that these people know nothing about. It's just plain stupid.

via Facebook 13 January, 2006 19:13
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Video games don't kill people. If kids kill then it's because of bad parenting.

via Facebook 27 January, 2006 15:27
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If it wasn't for violent games, I'd kill you all.

via Facebook 30 January, 2006 01:24
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Video games bad? I don't think so! I've been playing video games all my life. I'm 17 now and I am probally one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, I'm never violent, or even get pissed off easily. I've played Mortal Kombat through GTA and Still I'm the same. Video Games don't do anything, its the people who worship video games and actually think the game is real that need to be taken care of.

via Facebook 9 February, 2006 20:31
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You are right! in colombine the kids were disturbed! it was the parents fault for not paying attention!

via Facebook 1 March, 2006 15:00
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It is not video games that are bad. If you don't want your children playing the violent video game Don't freakin buy it!!!!!!!!!!

via Facebook 1 March, 2006 15:04
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No, Video games don't make children violent. If they did id probably be in jail right now. My name is James Waller i live in California, I play a whole mess of violent video games ranging from Grand Theft Auto to Counter-Strike. Never have i gotten the urge to go out and steal a car or shoot some guy in the head because of a video game. Sure i have thought about life if it was a video game like one of the ones i just listed but everytime i think about it, it comes back to me dieing at the end and that just loses the thought of it and i realize its just a game. I also have alot of friends that play the same video games as i do and none of them have gone on a shoot rampage or a car theft spree.

People think that video games produce violence because little kids pretend to be like their favorite super villian at the age of 10 or so. You never see a young kid go out and try kill someone because Shreder from Ninja Turtles trys to kill them. If you ever have please email me at compgamer998@yahoo.com with a movie of it (HAS TO BE REAL IM A PRO WITH MOVIE MAKER AND PHOTOSHOP I WILL KNOW IF YOU ARE FAKING IT) or a story about it.

via Facebook 1 June, 2006 18:37
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violent games are the one thing that stops me from going out on the street and killing people in real life.

via Facebook 15 June, 2006 11:41
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in this whole article all the points against vgames are in speculation. I don't see any peice of real proof that vgames make kids violent. I'm 18 and since I was 12 I've played every violent game you can think of. I've never been in a fight or violent act in my life, and i often find the games a release of aggresion, not a producer. My parents have given me solid morales since i was young, and I've always known It's just a game.

via Facebook 11 October, 2006 11:47
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Hey man, i agree with you 100%. Although, your message is pretty violent i like it. Violent video games dont make you more violent they stop you from being violent. When im pissed off i play a video game like GTA and kill some people (ON THE GAME!!!! not in real life like all you parents think were gonna do) I mean come on were kids but were not retarded, and i know that most kids would rather take their anger out on a video game rather then a person, and end up hanging like saddam. That's all i got to say so im out...


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RickJames 21 February, 2007 02:52
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1 day ago by craigsc on HP cuts 27,000 staff as Autonomy chief Lynch leaves
Moley

How does this impact on dual or multi booting? Seems to me to more or less prohibit this, from Windows 8 anyway. Will Grub 2 recognise Windows 8,...

1 day ago by Moley on Windows 8 start-up speed forces USB boot workaround
apexwm

I don't understand why there cannot be a slight pause during the boot process so the user can press a key. Many operating systems do this, even if...

1 day ago by apexwm on Windows 8 start-up speed forces USB boot workaround
Gavin Goodman

You can now buy the Xi3 modular computer in the UK at http://www.ocdistribution.com . This can be bought with the Tand3m software, pricing and...

1 day ago by Gavin Goodman on CES 2012: Xi3 microSERV3R
Phil at Cloud4

I agree: Mike Lynch can clearly build a business and manage strategy. I suspect the exit of Mike is more likely the end of a planned handover...

1 day ago by Phil at Cloud4 on HP cuts 27,000 staff as Autonomy chief Lynch leaves
Phil at Cloud4

This is unbeleivable government wastage with only one winner... Microsoft 1 - Tax payer Nil!

1 day ago by Phil at Cloud4 on 6 million wasted licences and £1,200 PCs: welcome to government IT
Mispam

So what do you do when you can't boot into windows? Why can't I just hold Shift while I power up instead of having to boot into windows and click a...

1 day ago by Mispam on Windows 8 start-up speed forces USB boot workaround
apexwm

I've also seen that Mac OS X for Intel machines is supposed to run in VirtualBox, which would also be a nice solution. I've never tried it though.

1 day ago by apexwm on xTreme Triple Booting: Linux, Mac & Windows
dave heasman

What I wonder is why when companies are caught bang to rights in not providing contracted services, people bend over to smear the customers? Surely...

2 days ago by dave heasman on Virgin throttles broadband for high-speed customers
pjc158

Strange statement from HP regarding Mike Lynch and not capable of scaling a company. Autonomy was a $7bn purchase which started as a small company...

2 days ago by pjc158 on HP cuts 27,000 staff as Autonomy chief Lynch leaves
lojolondon

Or - possibly, they will destroy business by ensuring people do not invest where there is no return. Another socialist idea, well beyond it's...

2 days ago by lojolondon on Open Data Institute will act as biz incubator