Do video games make children violent?

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The ESA has opposed previous attempts to mandate enforcement of game ratings, getting courts to overturn laws in the state of Washington; St. Louis County, Montana; and Indianapolis that made it illegal to sell violent games to minors. Courts in each case agreed with ESA arguments that games are constitutionally protected speech, and thus age restrictions must be limited to the type of discretionary systems used for movies, books and other media.

The Interactive Entertainment Merchants Association, a trade group representing game retailers, has consistently opposed such legislative measures as unnecessary and invalid. "The bottom line on this matter is that retailers have made the public commitment to partner with parents, and quite frankly you simply cannot legislate sound parenting," group president Hal Halpin said in a statement reacting to Yee's California bill. "We again welcome responsible parties interested in making a tangible difference on the issue to work with us, rather than pursue a legislative course proven unconstitutional time and again."

Markels likened current attempts to legislate video game restrictions to previous efforts aimed at comic books, Web sites and movies. "Every new medium has to fight to be to be protected," she said. "We're just asking for consistency. Why should a James Bond video game be treated any differently than the book or movie it's based on?"

Critics say games are, in fact, different from other forms of media. No book will require you to aim a virtual gun at somebody's head to move the plot forward.

Leland Yee, speaker pro tem of the California Assembly and author of a new bill to restrict the sale of violent games to minors, said interactivity makes games different. "Unlike movies, where you passively watch violence, in a video game you are the active participant and making decisions on who to stab, maim, burn or kill," Yee, a child psychologist, said in his statement accompanying the bill. "As a result, these games serve as learning tools that have a dramatic impact on our children."

Joanne Cantor, a communications professor at the University of Wisconsin who has conducted influential research on how media affects children, said it's well-established at this point that watching violent media desensitises kids to real-world violence and prompts them to act more aggressively.

Cantor said games, by their nature, tend to be more harmful than passive media. "The effects are compounded because the player participates in causing the outcome, and they're directly rewarded for killing," she said. "The other thing is that with violent video games, kids typically are at it much longer than they would be with TV or a movie. Kids can get wrapped up in these for hours."

Cantor, a prominent critic of the complex rating system applied to TV programming, said the ESRB system is more comprehensible, but it's still not enough for parents whose firsthand knowledge of video games may have stopped at "Ms. PacMan."

"Most people who don't play these video games have no idea what's in them," she said. "What we need is more information for parents on what exactly is in these games. If parents knew there was an opportunity to visit a prostitute, decapitate somebody and watch the blood spurt... I think they'd feel much more strongly about not letting that in their homes."

Washington's Fenty said he's convinced games such as "Grand Theft Auto" are contributing to juvenile crime in his city. "I've talked to people who worked with at-risk youths in Washington DC, and they hear it directly from teenagers' mouths that they emulate these games," he said. "That's led directly to a rash of juvenile car theft in Washington. These youth spends hours and hours doing that kind of thing in a game, and then they go out and emulate it in the community."

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No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 15:10
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Turkey GObbles

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 16:54
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DON'T DO DRUGS!! THEY KILL

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 16:57
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I think it should be 16.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 18:36
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i hate the grand theft auto games even tho i never played it t is stupid.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 19:27
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This ban thing is bull crap. Mostly all that stuff is caused by bad parenting. People should be able to play any game they want. It's the parents responsibility to make sure things like Columbine don't happen.

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 22:39
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Q: Do video games make children violent?

A: you bet

Fancy talking about McDonald's and how it effects the brain, or do you believe its good ol' holsom food?!

via Facebook 24 February, 2005 22:55
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I think it is pathetic that you blame video games for the crap kids do. When a kid does something wrong it has to be the game he or she is playing or the movie he or she is watching. Have you ever thought it could be BAD PARENTING! I have been playing violent video games and watched some of the most wacked out movies for as long as i can rememeber, and do to GOOD PARENTING and tough rules or strict rules if you want to call it that, im fine. If parents actually cared about their children and watched them they wouldnt let them play a game that is violent or let them watch a violent movie, until they feel the kid is old enough. Yeah i know parents are not always around, but when they come home and they catch them doing something they are not suppose to be doing, thats when its the parents job to disciplin them. If people would open there eyes for one second they might see its bad parenting that is the cause not video games and movies. Its the parents job to teach them right from wrong, good from bad, if they cannot teach their kids those type of things they shouldnt be a parent! That's just the way i feel about all the crap people say about video games and or movies. Always point the finger and blame somebody else, never want to take responsability for maybe just maybe bad parenting skills!

via Facebook 25 February, 2005 04:44
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I could not agree more with those posts about bad parenting. Look people, we're all tired of this debate - the facts are simple.

Violent video games do no more to a child than violent movies, violent tv shows, etc. The fact is, we live in a violent society. Our legislature "patches" things, rather than fixes them.

If anyone cares to actually fix this problem, we need to recognize the following:

PLACE THE BLAME WHERE APPROPRIATE:

1. Only in America could this happen without anyone asking why the hell the kid had a gun to begin with. Why should we have stronger legislation over video games than we do over guns? Obviously if a child can get a hold of a weapon, does anyone seriously think acquiring a video game would be a stretch?

2. Only in America could this happen without anyone questioning the parents. Guess what, parenting is tough - if you can't handle it - don't have a kid. The fact of the matter is, most parents are awful parents. Parenting adults LOVE to make excuses as to their shortcomings (and to convince themselves that they are a good parent). The fact is, if you ever hear yourself saying "I'm at work all day..," or "I'm a single parent...," or "I can't control them all of the time...," then guess what? Chances are, you're one of the 'bad parents' everyone loves to talk objectively about. If you are a good parent, you have open communication with your child, you have instilled in them a sense of discipline and honesty, and you know where they are and what they're doing at ALL TIMES. No excuses.

So what is the solution? It's simple. Pass parenting legislature. More specifically, make it into law that parents are DIRECTLY responsible for the actions of their children until they are 18. How about that? If your kid goes and kills three policemen (a horrible tragedy), then YOU go to prison.

How about we make a real law, at the heart of the problem, with some real teeth. Some real accountability for the actions of our society. The fact is, this would never pass, but not because it isn't a good idea, but because we would end up sending thousands (maybe millions?) of parents to prison.

In every case like this (Columbine, Arkansas, etc.), how come I know the names of the video games involved, but not the names of the parents? Why does the media spend all of its airtime attacking the games industry, instead of the parents? In my mind, they could have prevented these acts.

3. "What ever happened to crazy?" -Chris Rock. Repeat that line a couple of times to let it sink in. Look at the statistics: well over 99.9% of video gamers are not commiting these crimes. Since when did the 0.1% of society dictate the laws of the many? The fact is, at least 0.1% of our society is violent, and commits violent crimes. We need a way to combat this problem at its source (which is parenting), rather than merely patching the symptoms.

via Facebook 25 February, 2005 17:01
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NO!!!! Kids just say that to get themselves out of trouble because they know people will believe them i have grand theft auto and im 14 so does most of the people at school and it dont make any one do crazy things its just a game! How can virtual people make kids do anything? they know that what they do on games isnt real!

via Facebook 26 February, 2005 18:39
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Absolute crap. Video games are used as an excuse for bad parenting. I have been gaming since I was 5 and I have felt no side effects or personality changes.

However I am in favour of clearer age restrictions on certain games. I understand how the current system can confuse parents and I would like to see the same system applied to games as is applied to films.

via Facebook 28 February, 2005 13:21
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i am 13 yrs old and my parents wont let me buy an 18 rated game and im annoyed.
my parents seem to think after i play it overnight ill seem to want to buy an uzi and start shooting people and trying to escape the police. I mean, come on, i feel i am mature enough not to do that for my sake

via Facebook 2 March, 2005 19:42
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No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have played on the GTa games and other 18 rated games and have suffered no side effects.

via Facebook 2 March, 2005 19:44
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I have a WAY WAY better place to put the game than the video games or video game industry.

1.) The parents who buy their underage children the game
2.) The parents who fail to monitor what games their children are playing
3.) The parents who fail to teach their children the difference between reality and fantasy


Spend some time with your kids instead of dumping them in fron to the nearest screen. Todays society is so quick to blame and kind of media on teen violence. However is that the real problem? NO. a normally adjusted and healthy teen can still enjoy graphic movies and video games without going on a murderous rampage.

The real problem is the neglect of todays society to raise its children the way that generations upon generations have before us. But I guess pointing the finger away from the real issue and onto the video game industry is a lot easier, right?

via Facebook 4 March, 2005 16:17
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Games do NOT make children violent. Sure it causes a rush, but nothing more. If you are unable to determine what's real and what isn't, then you probably shouldn't be playing the game. Companies have free speech, just like anyone else. They can make these games, it's up to parents to regulate what their children play. I play tons of video games and never once have I been inspired to go out and do some violent act just because of the fact that I saw it in a game I played. Yes, I've played my fair share of violent games, and I think that the rating they earn on their cover does suit them. They get mature ratings for a reason, because they are created for a mature audience. It's not the companies fault that the ratings are being enforced. You can't go and sue a gaming company because you were too stupid to pay attention to what your kid is playing. YOU have to be the adult, YOU have to tell your kid what they can and can't play. The clerk doesn't know your child like you do. YOU have to be responsible for it.

This doesn't mean that kids are made violent by a game, but if you don't want them playing it, then get rid of it or don't let them have it in the first place. If you don't agree with something on TV you don't just sit there and watch it, you turn it off or you don't watch it to begin with. Don't punish responsible gamers and the companies for your own mistakes.

via Facebook 10 March, 2005 21:11
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jeebus.....some people are wack.....make that a lot of people n this world are wack wackos....\/\/4444c|<000000 heheh GTA does NOT make people violent...i mean....i first played it when i was 14 and now(im 15 now) ask any of my friends....im even more passive than i was before....aaand i play counter strike almost everyday and im pretty good if i may say so myself...^_^;;...the whole game is based on little skirmishes on different maps and the main point is usually to eliminate the oppposing force...just get a few headshots and you win!....so many games nowadays are like that...and i know tons of people who play them...i dunno any that have assaulted their teachers or something....

via Facebook 10 March, 2005 22:23
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Video games don't make children violent. I have been playing video games for 15 years, I'm 17 right now. I was playing Mortal Kombat in front of my parents and they never did anything because I know it's a video games and I shouldn't do the things portrayed in the video games. I have played the Grand Theft Auto: 3, Vice City and SA. These games don't even make me think of doing a violent act because I know it's stupid to shoot at anyone especially if it's a cop.

Kids just say that so they get out of the trouble and blaim Rockstar the makers of GTA or other game companies just so they can get out of the trouble and Rockstar gets all the trouble. Violent video games don't make you violent, it's just an excuse these so called "experts" and parents use.

via Facebook 16 March, 2005 16:04
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i think its bull shit

via Facebook 18 March, 2005 16:49
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Video games are made for entertainment. People who play the games like doing what you have to do. I support video game violence because sometimes it's a great way to release anger into a virtual person rather than into a real person. What I don't like is that parents let their kids play game like Gran Theft Auto:: San Andreas. I hear all the time 9 year old kids talking about it. Seriously, a game like that isn't the greatest game for a 9 year old to play. I'm also disturbed on how parents are letting their kids play a game where the F-word is said repeatidly while running around in gangs shooting people. This is no problem for a mature gamer that knows it's just a game meant for entertainment and not meant to have little kids play it.

By the way: San Andreas is way overrated.

via Facebook 25 March, 2005 23:44
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NO, VIDEO GAMES DON'T MAKE KIDS VIOLENT. All you parents need to get your heads out of the sand. I'm 15 years old and I have a pack of cigarettes in my jacket right now. Let's compare that to video games...I can go into Walmart, Target, Best Buy wherever tha fuck I want and buy a mature game. There is no way I could buy a pack of cigs all by myself. And yet I've got them in my jacket pocket. This proves that I'm gonna do what it takes to get some cigs. And If you faggots ban a video game from people under 17, imma still get that mothafucka when it comes out. I'm jus keepin' it real, that's how it is. I've got a knife in my jacket pocket too, you fake-ass bitches wanna blame that on GTA San Andreas? That game won GAME OF THE YEAR and you think you can fuck with it? You some dumb lil bitches. Heres a word to parents, your kid probably smokes, probably drinks, and (LIKE ME) might have even knocked a bitch up. I ain't proud of tha shit I've done, but I kno who I am and I accept it. The sooner you parents accept your kids decisions the better. That pussy who shot 3 pigs(COPS) can go fuck off, sueing GTA. Is he retarted?(OBVIOUSLY) If I ever saw that cocksucker I'd throw him through a window and slit his throat. Anywayz, Just stop ur bitching and enjoy life, it's too short to be bitchin' bout things that won't EVER change. And that's it, ya'll keep it real,

Peace,

MIke Jones

via Facebook 29 March, 2005 16:27
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we are doin a debate. and we are on the side that says that they do not affect kids today. Can you tell us some of your views that are on our side?
thanks

via Facebook 30 March, 2005 15:52
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Personally, idk wtf you guys are trying to accomplish. seriously? Im 15 and beat people to death with dildos in san andreas, but im not gunna kill some other guy. you know why? IM NOT REATARDED honestly youd have to be a mental fuucking retarded to pull that shit. quit your bitchin and stop tryin to fuck with shit you CANT CHANGE.

via Facebook 5 April, 2005 14:57
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ITS SILLY TO BLAM GTA because its the parnents fualt dfor buying it for child which 10 or 13 not the game

via Facebook 7 April, 2005 14:10
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NoOOOoOOo! iam 15 and i have been playing 18 rate games and its silly to blam gta of anything

via Facebook 7 April, 2005 14:12
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i doing a debate and i need information plz mail me at kdn421@yahoo.com if you think kids should watch violent moives. i mean what is so worng with violent movies. we would just watch crappymoviesa like those kids movies they make. movies like master and comander is blloody and gross and stuff but they aren't blood and make kids go out to see and comet suicide.

via Facebook 15 April, 2005 03:10
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I think that some games are cool but if your under the age limit then you should not be playing the game.also i do think that games do effect the way you act.so that is why it is good to pick a good or fun game not with all of the sex and violents.

via Facebook 19 April, 2005 18:04
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Dear to all the idiots that believe that video games make people kill in real life,
I've been playing violent video games since I was I got my first game system ever since I first was shown DOOM ( I was about 8 0r 10 yrs. old and now I'm almost 20) and I have NEVER EVER felt like that I've wanted to go outside and kill someone with a shotgun or any other weapon. Instead of feeling like I want to go out and kill someone in real life when I play a video game for instance say Halo 1&2 for XBOX it doesn't make me feel like I want to go kill someone it actually gets rid of all my stress and anger that I've had that day and makes me feel better not because I've just killed someone but because I've just found a way to get rid on my problems without paying any shrink or any other doctor and paying them hundreds of dollars for something that I could do for free.Ine example is one time I was playing Turok and I put the controller down for one second (without pausing game) and when I came back I pick up the controller and some dinosaur creature just in front on my screen and scared my and because of reflex in my finger I shot him with my shotgun that I had with explosive shells inside of it and when I shot him all of his limbs and his head were blown off of his torso and his head just stayed in mid air for a few seconds and squirted out blood and I thought that was the best thing I've ever seen and I've wanted to see if I could do that again but only in the video game and NOT in real life. Sincerly,Christie

via Facebook 26 April, 2005 18:20
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no at lest not me I play violent video games but i am sweat and gentle.

via Facebook 27 April, 2005 17:21
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If the stores that sell the video games just hand the "R" rated games to minors, they shouldn't be selling games at all. Also, there are books that give you a choice on what happens next. Some of the choices involve shooting someone or blowing up a building or bus full of people.

via Facebook 10 May, 2005 17:26
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All these people who say they dont make children violent are just not educated enough to realise the dangers. Try either having kids of your own, or reading some really good psychology books. That's if you can even read. I do not believe any responsible parent would actually buy a game that was not entirely suitable for their children, and people who do are just stupid. Children do suffer adverse affects from violent video gaming e.g. GTA, and it does give them a desensitisation affect on their own perception of real-life violence. Basically, it does them harm, and make them more aggressive.

via Facebook 17 May, 2005 12:26
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YES!!!!! To the majority of responsible adults out there, not people who spend their days on games consoles. Video games for anyone who is over the age of 18 are unlikely to have an effect on their violence, and you when you were 10 probably did not know it but trust me you would have suffered some affects. Just because you believe that you did not, does not mean that you did not. Ask your parents or old teachers. Video games especially highly violent ones do affect children and are harmful, lets quickly put it into perspective;
The Exorcist (film), banned when it first screened in england for violence and gore. Certificate when allowed to be screened 18.
DOOM 3 (game), toted as the most graphically violent game ever, and hailed by gamers as the gories scariest game ever made. Certificate 18, ever banned....NO!
Would you show your nine or ten year old child The Exorcist? No but you would buy them a game which is marketed on the fact that it is highly violent, and in which your child is put in the drivers seat of this violence. The sensible answer is NO you should not, the stupid un-educated answer is "yeah man i played violent games when i was young, why shouldnt my kid?" I think that if you say you did not suffer any effects, that kind of answer tells me that you definately did.

via Facebook 17 May, 2005 12:40
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MY NAME IS ADAM I THINK THAT SCREEN BASED MEDIA DOSE HAVE A EFFECT ON CHILDREN

via Facebook 16 September, 2005 11:56
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Drugs kill not video games

via Facebook 10 October, 2005 02:04
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I think that playing any type of video games, watching tv, or playing on the computer makes people irritable not totally violent but just really irritable (if they have been doing those things for more than 2 hours)!!! I'm 15 and I watch tv and play on the computer a lot and i do notice that when I've been doing these things for too long that i get really irritable toward people and i don't even mean to....i just do it without thinking....

via Facebook 11 October, 2005 21:17
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Video games do not promt kids to be violent.

Its there peirs. If you have scarcely any friends and everyone makes it there business to humiliate you and embarrass you and harrass you on a daily bases, and you cant talk to your parents or teachers about it because no one believes that you problem is serious or important enough to take the time out of there busy lives to address you, or if kids believe that there problems are so complex that no one will understand, they turn to violence because they dont know what else to do.

via Facebook 11 October, 2005 21:31
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Violent video games make children for violent. I disagree, Children do not get any more violent then they all ready from video games.
People are naturally violent, there are people out there who have never played video games and become mass murderers and terrorists! The point is video games don’t inspire people to be violent.
Video games are a great way to irradiate the violent tendencies of youth. Instead of getting angry and attacking a real person, they can take the frustrations of the day out on a virtual character, maiming them to the child’s delight.Children my become irritable after playing a video game, but all video games have this effect, not just violent ones. It’s how you cope when you become irritable that determines the effect of the irritability. If the kids are not taught that violence is bad, violent video games will have an effect, because IT’S THE ONLY THING THEY LEARN. So it’s parenting to blame, not the games.

via Facebook 13 October, 2005 20:59
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I agree with these comments. These 'lawmakers' are seriously underestimating a childs sense of reality. I seriously don't belive that graphics on video games have advanced enough for children to not be able to tell the difference between a person and a video game character. Most of them are pretty box shaped anyway!

How can people seriously blame a video game when if the parents think it is too violent they can just NOT buy it maybe!. If a parent seriously thinks that a child is old enough to play an 18 when they are 10 they need their head testing!

via Facebook 1 December, 2005 09:12
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VIDEO GAMES DO NOT CAUSE PEOPLE TO ACT VIOLENT, IF YOU CANT SEPERATE YOUR SELF FROM THE 3D WORLD AND THE REAL WORLD THEN THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG. NO VIDEO GAME DO NOT CAUSE KIDS TO ACT VILOENT, ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE IF SOMEONE HAD A BAD DAY AT SCHOOL THEY CAN COME HOME AND TAKE OUT THERE ANGER ON THE VDEO GAME.

via Facebook 19 December, 2005 14:47
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I dont think that it is the video games that make people do stupid stuff. If parents have such a big problem with the violent video games or the car stealing or whatever else then they shouldnt buy them the games

via Facebook 4 January, 2006 21:37
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I don't feel like these things need to be enforced. If the parents lack the skills to handle the things their children use and see, that's their fault. We shouldn't suffer for their mistakes. Besides, I play violent, mature rated games all the time, and I'm not 17. I don't feel like going out and killing people, stealing cars, taking drugs, etc. All of these government jerkoffs are trying to take away everything good that we still have. For instance, they tried to get rid of rock music, due to one album. They also tried to get rid of comics, though that was a while ago. But, now they're trying to get rid of something which was already handled a while ago.
Oh, and to the people who sold them the games: keep doing it. Fight back against this ridiculous, cheuvanistic display of rage against something that these people know nothing about. It's just plain stupid.

via Facebook 13 January, 2006 19:13
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Video games don't kill people. If kids kill then it's because of bad parenting.

via Facebook 27 January, 2006 15:27
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If it wasn't for violent games, I'd kill you all.

via Facebook 30 January, 2006 01:24
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Video games bad? I don't think so! I've been playing video games all my life. I'm 17 now and I am probally one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, I'm never violent, or even get pissed off easily. I've played Mortal Kombat through GTA and Still I'm the same. Video Games don't do anything, its the people who worship video games and actually think the game is real that need to be taken care of.

via Facebook 9 February, 2006 20:31
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You are right! in colombine the kids were disturbed! it was the parents fault for not paying attention!

via Facebook 1 March, 2006 15:00
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It is not video games that are bad. If you don't want your children playing the violent video game Don't freakin buy it!!!!!!!!!!

via Facebook 1 March, 2006 15:04
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No, Video games don't make children violent. If they did id probably be in jail right now. My name is James Waller i live in California, I play a whole mess of violent video games ranging from Grand Theft Auto to Counter-Strike. Never have i gotten the urge to go out and steal a car or shoot some guy in the head because of a video game. Sure i have thought about life if it was a video game like one of the ones i just listed but everytime i think about it, it comes back to me dieing at the end and that just loses the thought of it and i realize its just a game. I also have alot of friends that play the same video games as i do and none of them have gone on a shoot rampage or a car theft spree.

People think that video games produce violence because little kids pretend to be like their favorite super villian at the age of 10 or so. You never see a young kid go out and try kill someone because Shreder from Ninja Turtles trys to kill them. If you ever have please email me at compgamer998@yahoo.com with a movie of it (HAS TO BE REAL IM A PRO WITH MOVIE MAKER AND PHOTOSHOP I WILL KNOW IF YOU ARE FAKING IT) or a story about it.

via Facebook 1 June, 2006 18:37
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violent games are the one thing that stops me from going out on the street and killing people in real life.

via Facebook 15 June, 2006 11:41
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in this whole article all the points against vgames are in speculation. I don't see any peice of real proof that vgames make kids violent. I'm 18 and since I was 12 I've played every violent game you can think of. I've never been in a fight or violent act in my life, and i often find the games a release of aggresion, not a producer. My parents have given me solid morales since i was young, and I've always known It's just a game.

via Facebook 11 October, 2006 11:47
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Hey man, i agree with you 100%. Although, your message is pretty violent i like it. Violent video games dont make you more violent they stop you from being violent. When im pissed off i play a video game like GTA and kill some people (ON THE GAME!!!! not in real life like all you parents think were gonna do) I mean come on were kids but were not retarded, and i know that most kids would rather take their anger out on a video game rather then a person, and end up hanging like saddam. That's all i got to say so im out...


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Nice review and very informative. One thing I'd like to add (in reply to whs001's 1st question), the main reason to have the same interface from...

1 day ago by GrueMaster on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Frederick Wrigley

I'be been using Mint 12 since the RC came out, and I am far more happy with the Cinnamon, the Mate, and, yes (with extensions), theGnome 3...

1 day ago by Frederick Wrigley via Facebook on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
bdantas

Excellent article. One small correction, though--although a fresh installation of Linux Mint 12 will, indeed, provide the user with a version of...

1 day ago by bdantas on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Alan Ralph

In related news, the ISPs club together to get the members of the Home Affairs Select Committee (ya goofed on that part, ZDNet UK) copies of "The...

1 day ago by Alan Ralph via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Alan Ralph

In related news, the ISPs club together to get the members of the Home Affairs Select Committee (ya goofed on that part, ZDNet UK) copies of "The...

1 day ago by Alan Ralph via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Moley

For Gnome 2 die-hards, it is possible to add icons to the bottom panel (or top top panel, if you prefer) which provide the exact Gnome 2...

1 day ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint