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But Firebird still has a more commercial friendly license. (Ditto Postgresql). With MySQL you must pay to get more commercial friendly terms.
The license issues trump the technical catch-up improvements.
Basically they kludged together the SAP-DB & the MySQL engines. SAP-DB is a great engine & MySQL is headed in the right direction, overall.
Firebird? Who uses Firebird aside from almost no one? Where do you people get your figures??
So does this mean that there are going to be even more people out there who believe that because they "know MySQL" that they're true SQL developers?
Firebird has had Stored Procedures and Triggers for years, is very stable, true open source (MySQL needs a license for commercial deployment) and very fast. So this release is 10 years too late, at least in the enterprise app niche.
its about time
Anonymous: I have dark suspicions about where they get their figures, but I do have a couple of peers big on J2EE and the like who prefer to use ibFireBird as a kind of embedded database. It wouldn't take many big users like that to make a dent on the numbers.
I prefer PostgreSQL but have many sites with both PostgreSQL and MySQL up, often on the same machine.
I use Firebird, thats who! Just completed a whole bunch o performance tests on it and it actually comes up pretty darn good.
The numbers for Firebird are probably artificially high due to the fact that Borland has bundled Firebase/Interbase with their C/C++ and Delphi languages/compilers for at least 10 years.
I don't recall ever seeing Firebird/Interbase being used in a *PRODUCTION* environment. I've used Firebird/Interbase in the development process but never deployed it as a production DBMS.
Ehmm... that's a pretty dumb statement.
InterBase was bundled with Delphi and the like.
Firebird is a different product that has InterBase as its ancestor but does not come bundled with Delphi...
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Martijn
Well, I have a Firebird database in PRODUCTION for more than a year... it runs smoothly, never had a problem, with 30 users working simultaneously. The client is very happy with it and the cost for firebird based application was pretty low for them.
A year and a half ago the scene was very different on the open source database front. We needed a suitable SQL backend for our product and MySQL was the first one we considered. After about half a day of investigation, three things were its downfall (for us and back then).
* Commercial Use License
* Cascading constraints
* ACID compliancy
Well you could argue that cascading constraints is simply part of ACID, but the point is they didn't work. We were coming from Paradox, and there was no way we were going to put the effort into switching if the data consistency issues were not addressed.
PostgreSQL looked great, but at the time, no released windows port.
Firebird took us a bit by surprise. We chose it based on the features it had, alongside the reputation of Interbase which was its ancestor. There is somewhere around 20 years of database experience there.
In recent surveys, Firebird and MySQL have been neck and neck in terms of "enterprise" use. I am glad that MySQL is taking this step. It should lead to higher quality MySQL programs as the full benefits of ACID compliancy kick in.
Postgres now has a windows release build, and there are lots of features and enhancements on the horizon for Firebird.
What will happen is really anyones guess. One thing that will not happen overnight for MySQL is the reputation of the ACID implementation. Certainly those who currently use MySQL will be interested in this new power and confidence in the data, but it will take at least a year before users of another ACID compliant dbms will take it seriously enough to consider it.
At the end of the day, it is us the users that win out.
We have deployed over 13,000 copies of our app that uses the Firebird embedded DLL for its data engine, and it has worked extremely well for us. It has given us the ability to support the app with a single data file, stored procedures, triggers, referential integrity and more. It is easy to understand how it is gaining in popularity as it is the only solution out there that met our needs.
>Well, I have a Firebird database in PRODUCTION for more than a year... it runs smoothly, never had a problem
Ditto! I have used Interbase/Firebird for about 10 years (yes, in PRODUCTION environments), and has not to this day had ANY technical problems, plus the database is darn fast!
The guy that wondered if Firebird/Interbase has been used in production, and at the same time is happy with this crap called MySQL... no comments...:-)
(Consider Interbase once cost $10 000 pr seat; one does not pay such fees for a "hobby" database)
Well, happy to have met a fellow Firebirder!
Baalbek