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A consumer rights group has launched a campaign to prevent Microsoft from releasing Windows Vista unless the software giant guarantees that its next-generation operating system will be bug-free.

The Committee to Fight Microsoft (CTFM) said on Tuesday that it wants Microsoft to offer a warranty to customers that Vista does not include "bad code".

"Bill Gates sells the public defective products, and then expects us to spend years being his guinea pigs, while he corrects the myriad of defects and vulnerabilities in his defective code," said CTFM executive director Andy Martin in a statement.

"Over four years after Windows XP was released I still receive regular 'updates' and 'bug fixes,' which reflect a product that was originally scandalously defective," he said. "No other company in America gets away with selling defective products and then expecting its customers to wait years for proper product operability."

Martin, who describes himself as "the people's attorney general" on his Web site, founded CTFM 10 years ago during the US antitrust case against Microsoft.

A Microsoft spokesperson said that security is one of its top priorities and it has made "measurable improvements" in the security of its software over the last few years.

"While there is no such thing as a state of absolute security, Microsoft believes Windows Vista will be the most secure version of Windows the company has ever shipped," the spokesperson said.

Talkback

Longhorn-Vista is a MS's failure by many facts:
1. Longhorn supposed to have different shell - no way...not ready (code name 'MOnad') product...-failure
2. Longhorn supposed to have .net XML serialization of objects mechanizm for SOA architecture of any software working on it -failure.
3. Longhorn supposed to have different file system WinFS - failure...
4. all Microsoft products and product groups supposed to have NEW PROducts working with WinFS - failure...not even close...not even .net conversion had occured in most products ...MSOFFICE, Livemeeting, SharePoint and many many others...

So what is VIsta? - new version of WInXP?

Yes, it is another market campaign from MS to get some $ from UPDATE/fix of OLD OS rather then delivering new OS with new File System....

if not 60 billion in cash that drives the MS sales and marketing - it became a disaster for software industry , on my opinion, and really negative example for software companies how to compete with Betta versions rather then with the real products...

Another really bad factor for MS success that amount of groups and products have been grown out in such rapid speed that not a single product can be released by One Year life cycle - new life cycle for MS products...
Another factor -People are underpaid and decieved in their expectations of being Millioners in 7 years...(hired in 1997-2000) but politically they have occupied the middle management positions...and they are neither productive nor competive in their technology knowledge...another pay check mentality corporation...
another factor -India and people from India came to MS and now runs almost every MS hierarchical structures...which brings India mentality into American Software...and by personal experience the quality of people, because of community mentality and hiring politics -friends, wifes,brothers,sisters and etc..who have no idea of computers...but...- that is another problem for gigant that tries to offshore the products to India...
Offshore never worked and won't work because of tremendous growth of request in India for EDUCATED people but lack of producing such AMOUNT OF qualified personnel by Education school limits...and etc...therefore, brotherhood works but free market competition - does not...

Anyhow, MS has delivered so many products to the market that won't be completed never by many reasons:
1. Products are written in different technologies and can not play catch up with the most advanced groups such as .net...
2. Products has been bought (acquired by MS) by reasons to get customers to MS and in many cases just killing the architecture initially built in because of enforcing MS products to be used in the software that ...as anybody knows have problems ...more products you are enforcing to work with bought PAckage - more buggy it became...Examples, LIvemeeting group (RTC), OLAP group(SQL Server), Navision (MBS) and many many others...
The initial amount of developers is growing so is out of control of the product...groups became more hierachical and less productive ...and products became slow in bringing new technologies into market , also need to remember the 'technology debt' reason...more product is changed(more years in the market) more complicated and expensive became new development and update...
and etc...

I am confident that MS will be dead in 9-10 years as a software company...not as a markting company ..but as a reliable software and products that can be utilized by businesses for money paid ....

And I have to admitt that even I have been developing software with Microsoft technologies and my food on the table has come from Microsoft's issues and gaps - I still can not support marketing examples of Microsoft's success stories...integrity and reliability must be in the product that sold to customers...which is absolutely not the case for Microsoft products....

Regards,
Alex Deiden

via Facebook 13 August, 2005 20:09
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By Blocking Vista (Alisa Longhorn) future software technoloies will stall,

Only by experimenting with new ways of using old software wether that means patching or service packs for a operating system be it
Red Hat Linuxs
Mandrake 10.2 beta
Susu Linux
Mac's Tiger
Microsoft XP
Microsoft Windows 2003 server 1
Microsoft Data centre 2003 server
Microsoft Vista

can one come to a new age in developement so far to date all software developments have been only possible where new hard developement has evoled ie Processor (CPU) has made progress.

Currently from what i have seen in all software is that flaws are every where compability is the major flaw with Linuxs and Windows machines exposing security holes to just not working on some hardware devices,

If we are to see some major advancements everyone must jump aboard their favourite software vender be it Microsoft or Linux and really push for these changes stop bitching and put your ideas forward.

Their is both money to be made for some while others just what to share their ideas regardless of who design the end product even some people are willing just to give their ideas away without the copyright issues involved,

One must choose their way of doing things first port of call is security
second reliability
third stability
fourth compability
five preformance
sixth improvement on desktop shell
seven applications within the operating system design
eight networking capability and a new IP Addressing System
Nineth fun games on every OS that people in the home can play while for Business minded games designed so as to improve their minds power.
Tenth for developers and programmers new ways of testing their work without worrying about crashing their computers
Eleventh Anti-virus software companies need to really improve their games with self updating software detection that can patch, replace and fix infected system files and third party software (this means software that can go to microsoft website or a website that has updating servies for the installed product locate the new updates and display a message alerting the user to them and what the update is for)

Twelveth users who like Linux, mac or Microsoft need to help prevent security attacks by investigating what progams they have brought, or about to install and use,

It is no good whinging if you are not prepared to put suggestion forward

And to all you viruses writing backdoor, keylogging designers get off your back sides and stop stealing peoples idenity and money you are not helping anyone but are pushing up the cost of computering for everyone and adding to the unlucky users debt.

Use some common sense technology does not improve on its own we must make it happen

via Facebook 15 August, 2005 15:36
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i wish the last two people had learned to spell and construct readable sentences!

If this idiotic group manage to block the release of Vista i will personally find the guy responsible and smash his head in.

No code, even almost perfect space shuttle launching code, has NO bugs.

There is a group of 6 programmers that work on space shuttle launching software, it is the most perfect code you can get, it has 1 error every million lines of code.

Microsoft will NEVER get perfect.......ever, until rebots code themselves and their coding is also perfect.

via Facebook 22 August, 2005 09:58
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