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Bob Kelly is a Microsoft executive with a wide remit that takes in infrastructure products ranging from virtualisation to security. He talks to ZDNet UK about some of the major events that have marked the autumn period for the software giant.

The final quarter of 2009 is proving a busy time for Microsoft. Some events, such as the launch of the Windows 7 operating system and the release of Windows Server 2008 R2 with Hyper-V R2, have been the result of careful planning. Other events, such as the Sidekick data loss, have not.

ZDNet UK took the opportunity to quiz Microsoft corporate vice president Bob Kelly about some of these developments when he passed through London recently.

Kelly is responsible for Microsoft infrastructure server products, including business online services, virtualisation, Windows Server, identity and security, and high-performance computing.

Q: With the appearance in October of Release 2 of the Hyper-V virtualisation system, Microsoft appears to have made up ground on VMware. Are there measures Microsoft will be employing to take the lead, or are you happy with where you are?
A: Virtualisation in itself is less interesting than what it enables. But that said, if you look at [analyst firm] IDC figures, you'll find we have about 20 percent of the hypervisor market and we'll double that in the next 12 to 18 months. We expect very rapid adoption of Hyper-V, particularly if the customer is virtualising Windows, which is the vast majority of the market.

But the reality of IT is the rich margins you see around a niche technology as it moves to mainstream will start to erode, not because we are going after the margins or anything of the sort, but because the natural course of adoption means you can't get rich margins on technology that goes mainstream — that is just the nature of the beast. That will pose certain challenges to the [virtualisation] economic model that has been established over the past two or three years.

Despite all the hubbub and excitement about virtualisation, it's still quite early. Less than 20 percent of all the servers in use today are used as hosts for virtualisation. The reality is that there are 31 million X86 servers installed on the planet today, so it's going to be physical and virtual world for a long time.

You say it's early days for virtualisation, so do you think organisations are making the most of the technology and approaching it in the right way?
I think there really will be a change in approach in the way organisations use virtualisation. The reason they started to adopt server virtualisation in the first place was because they had server sprawl. They had one server per app and one for DNS and so on, and there was tremendous under-utilisation of those servers.

That was problem one: they were spending too much on the hardware and not getting a return. So they start to introduce virtualisation on the server side because it helps them reduce their capital expenditure. The corollary challenge for customers now is that they have virtual machine sprawl.

They have this set of virtual machines that has spun out of control, so all it's done is surface a different management problem. It's in the nature of these things that you see a niche technology pop up that's interesting. You have first-mover advantage for VMware, for the X86 world at least.

But as technologies normalise their way out, they become part of the platform and then vendors that can give customers a way of taking advantage of this technology more broadly — not only on the server but across other pieces of the infrastructure — that's when it becomes really valuable to a customer.

Virtualisation becomes an important enabler not just of reducing the cost of IT on-premise, but also because it can enable a whole new set of scenarios in the cloud. The technology that spans the on-premise and the off-premise, or public and private cloud, is virtualisation. That enabler becomes really important as we move to a software-plus-services world.

Do you think changes such as the cloud and virtualisation will fundamentally change Microsoft's business model and the way it makes its money?
Sure. As we talk about a software-plus-services world, the economics of cloud-based services are very different. The top-line revenue position will grow pretty dramatically, but profitability or Cogs [cost of goods sold] implications of a services-based world are very different.

So our aspiration is of course to grow both. If we can deliver a better value proposition to customers where we run some of their IT at a lower cost to them but at a higher dollar figure to us, then over time it will be a very profitable business for the company. The truth is also that in a services sense we are also still very nascent.

But our approach with BPOS [Microsoft's Business Productivity Online Suite hosted messaging and collaboration tools] contrasts with, say, the Google...

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