MS: Netscape's "arrogance" deterred AOL

Daily Newsletters

Sign up to ZDNet UK's daily newsletter.

NEWS
Netscape's arrogance was one of the reasons America Online chose Microsoft as its primary browser provider, Microsoft Vice President Brad Chase said Wednesday. Chase, under re-direct here in the Microsoft antitrust trial, recalled a lunch he had with AOL executive David Colburn where Colburn described working with Netscape as an "incredibly difficult experience." "He said that AOL had difficulty working with Netscape because they were arrogant, they'd put a deal on the table, then take it off, then put it on again," said Chase. "He was frustrated ... he considered us a breath of fresh air," Chase said. One AOL e-mail sent to Chase described Netscape as "impossible to deal with." Upon cross-examination, government attorney David Boies noted that Microsoft's contractual relationship with AOL wasn't all roses either. Boies directed Chase's attention to a different part of the very same e-mail, in which Chase wrote, "I am now through half of the contract they sent and I have the damn thing highlighted and have been swearing a lot." Microsoft attorney John Warden entered into evidence various editorials praising Internet Explorer 5 over Netscape Communicator 4.5 -- bolstering Microsoft's argument that its success in the browser market can be attributed to "superior technology." Warden also presented two statistics attempting to prove Microsoft's argument that the browser market is still very competitive and that downloading software remains one of the most popular forms of distribution. Those statistics: That AOL went from 15 million to 16 million subscribers in just five weeks, and that, as of July 1998, Netscape estimates that more than 12.4 million copies of its browsers have been downloaded. Chase also testified that Sun Microsystems' plan to design a new browser -- consisting of browser components that can be integrated into smaller devices -- would be a considerable threat to Internet Explorer. Microsoft has long-maintained that Internet Explorer's "componentised" technology is responsible for the company's success over Netscape in the browser market, and that Sun's intention to design a new browser would be a considerable threat. "[I predict] we will drop to 30 percent, and Netscape to a little under 70 percent," Chase said, basing his testimony on a survey conducted on Microsoft's behalf last year. Chase insisted that AOL does not have an exclusive relationship with Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Examining an anonymous memo indicating the contrary he said, "That's just wrong. AOL wanted some flexibility ... but always wanted one primary technology." Chase testified that Microsoft got that flexibility by allowing users to download Netscape from AOL. Boies and Warden then went back and forth three times over whether flexibility also meant allowing AOL to physically distribute Netscape Navigator, and building Internet Explore and Netscape Navigator into the AOL software. Currently, AOL software comes pre-loaded with Internet Explorer Services, but users are free to download Netscape Navigator and use it instead. Compaq Senior Vice President John Rose testifies Wednesday afternoon.

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in.

You can also log in with Facebook. Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

  • Login

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Community FAQ

Get ZDNet UK's daily newsletter

Enter your email address to sign up

ZDNet UK Live

bordero

ike fuelband is great for every healthminded person ! to work out! theres this website called textme4free.com that you can use to text anywhere in...

47 minutes ago by bordero on Nike's FuelBand wristband gamifies exercise
BrownieBoy

> I'm told it's somewhat annoying when people have their Macs stolen > and Apple stores treat the thief as the owner, but there you go. Ouch,...

3 hours ago by BrownieBoy on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
Moley

@kevinmchapman. OK, I acknowledge that 'most' was a gratuitous throwaway comment as an afterthought and too presumptuous. As to proof, as you...

7 hours ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Jack Schofield

@BrownieBoy > Works really well for thieves.... >> Nice attempt to deflect the argument by tossing in a point that's totally >> irrelevant, even...

9 hours ago by Jack Schofield on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
raskolnikof

fantastic that the so called piracy bills have been withdrawn. however, these anti-democracy supporters are still in the shadows so lets be alert...

9 hours ago by raskolnikof on SOPA, Protect IP support wavers in face of online protest
Tony Douglas

Please God no; teach them anything you like - thinking rationally, the uses and misuses of data, what data is and what it's not - but leave the...

12 hours ago by Tony Douglas via Facebook on Kids are the future. Teach ’em to code.
BrownieBoy

@Jack, > Works really well for thieves.... Nice attempt to deflect the argument by tossing in a point that's totally irrelevant, even it were...

1 day ago by BrownieBoy on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
bootlegger

Make that 13 people now - I got refused today at Manchester airport. I thought I was up to date on this legislation - I knew of the EU ruling from...

1 day ago by bootlegger on UK airport body scans will not be opt out
tinycg

Don't forget to check out apps like GoodReader or SlideShark either, they're indispensible for people on the go in presentation situations. Best...

1 day ago by tinycg on Four top iPad apps for people on the move
TerryRK

Well it seems there is something a number of us agree on. Why is the Ubuntu Unity launcher so ugly? I thought perhaps it was something to do with...

2 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Freebies202

Duplicate comments are not made intentionally. Its very good to know that now you are keeping check on this problem because sometimes a commenter...

2 days ago by Freebies202 on Microsoft fixes blog comments, speeds up blogs with open source
kevinmchapman

"the very significant number of users" and "many (most) of us" - you have no evidence for these statements. It is a fact that most users are saying...

2 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Marg Menzies Harrison

Another grammar faux pas is the improper use of "you". When sitting down down in a restaurant, for example, I get cringe when the waitress...

2 days ago by Marg Menzies Harrison via Facebook on 10 flagrant grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
zdnetukuser

And NOW, folks, for Canonical's next trick... Kubuntu is late. Here's a pencil. Draw your own conclusions. cf.:...

2 days ago by zdnetukuser on Linux Minterface
Moley

@kevinmchapman. The discussion here reflects the very significant number of users who really do like the traditional menu system and who wish to...

2 days ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

Er, no... It is an efficient means of finding the application/file/setting you need in one place. The icons are a simply a fallback for when you...

2 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

Isn't the provision of a text based search an admission by the developers that the mass of icons approach does not work? I don't need to use a...

3 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

"Unity and GNOME 3 both abandon the old text-based cascading menus in favour of a graphical icon-driven system." Point truly missed. Both use a...

3 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

whs001 - Thank you, I'm glad you liked the article. I absolutely agree with you on your first point. I should perhaps have made it clearer that...

3 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Dennis Nilsson

If we allow corporate interest to dictate the way our government circumvents due process against foreign entities then we should accept the same...

3 days ago by Dennis Nilsson via Facebook on ACTA stumbles in Germany