Amazon users campaign against Sony's copy-restriction technology

Daily Newsletters

Sign up to ZDNet UK's daily newsletter.

NEWS

Customers of Amazon.com have launched an informal campaign against Sony's decision to use a particular type of DRM on a music CD.

Over the last three days over 50 people have posted reviews on the Amazon.com Web site warning people against buying a Van Zant CD, called "Get Right with the Man".

"Don't put this in your PC," warned one reviewer. "Will damage your computer, may cost hundreds of dollars to repair," said another. "I won't buy media when [I'm] treated like a criminal," a third declared.

Amazon reviewer Chris Petersen explained that the software installed by the CD cannot easily be uninstalled.

"This CD will install dangerous software on your computer that is very, very difficult to remove. This software will reduce the performance of your computer even when you are not playing this CD," said Petersen.

Some postings called on Amazon customers to stop buying Sony products altogether, to discourage them from putting such software in future CDs.

"BOYCOTT SONY. This CD will destroy your computer, and it won't even play in a lot of car and stereo CD players because of this horrible DRM," said R. Johnson.

Mikko Hyppönen, the director of antivirus research at F-Secure, which has been researching potential security issues arising from this copy-restricted CD, told ZDNet UK that Sony's strategy could drive customers towards music download services, including illegal sites.

[? /*CMS poll(20003927) */ ?]"I think the outcome of this is that Sony might be alienating more and more customers from buying CDs. For example, I know someone who always buys CDs and owns close to 1,000 CDs, but this has changed his mind. He has now started downloading music files from BitTorrent and P2P sites. He said to me, 'What's the points of buying a CD if you get extra grief.'"

The copy-restriction technologies on the Van Zant CD have not only been criticised for being difficult to remove, but could pose a security risk to computers, according to researchers. On Wednesday, Sony BMG's technology partner, First 4 Internet, said it has released a patch to antivirus companies to tackle this potential security problem.

Talkback

A patch sent too antivirus companies?

Talk about a bandaid on a gunshot wound.

via Facebook 3 November, 2005 21:20
Reply

Gah! The end of this article discusses a patch without mentioning that it DOES NOT FIX OR REMOVE THE SOFTWARE, only makes it visible. ZDNet - please don't let your readership believe that the patch is a good solution!

via Facebook 3 November, 2005 23:25
Reply

What Sony have done is called hacking and virus creation all in ones. Hacking and veius creation is a very serious federal crime all over the world. So go to nearest police station and put charges at them.

If your company have been infected by this 'virus'. Contact your loyer and sue them. You may be allowed to have >100 000$ back + all time and cost to repeair all your damaged computers.

So what conclusion can we draw from this.
One easyone ofcource. First DRM don't work.
Second , the music industry want to die quicker then the rest.

via Facebook 3 November, 2005 23:32
Reply

Oh and where does SONY get its money from, which other companies do this, none except the big players. I bet these people who are moaning are the ones who buy SONY good, I think their suckers!!!

via Facebook 3 November, 2005 23:44
Reply

Its not just their CD's. I don't buy sony DVD's anymore as they don't play on my Sharpe DVD player. Sony DVD's are the only ones I have this problem with.

via Facebook 4 November, 2005 11:46
Reply

I will not be buying ANY Sony products until they acknowledge this as unacceptable, and commit to not doing it again.
This punishes people who PAY for their music, not the pirates and hackers.

via Facebook 4 November, 2005 14:48
Reply

I also refuse to buy music distributed by any label/company that stops you from being able to do what you want with your own music.

Sony are not the only culprits, EMI are another. I bought Athlete's CD album, 'Tourist' at the beginning of last summer, went to copy it on my hard disk but was prevented from doing so.

This is not the only CD from EMI that I have had this problem with. When I say problem, I don't mean a minor one either!

I am currently going through a process of putting all of my media on my computer, having purchased a Media Center PC. Needless to say, my digital collection is now incomplete, despite having spent my 'hard earned' on an overpriced CD album.

Surely this kind of in-excusable behaviour on behalf of the faceless corporations that call themselves record companies is just going to push people into the very direction that the bespoke companies want to avoid...............the illegal download!

While I appreciate that we are moving into a digital era, and of course you can 'buy' music for download, why on earth should I have to line the companies pockets further when I have just spent a small fortune on the CD?!?!

After all, you used to be able to put a vinyl album onto tape e.g. for listening to your car, so long as it is for your own listening pleasure then you are not in breach of any copyright laws and the same applies in this circumstance. Many people simply want to be able to re-format the music they have purchased.

I, in future, will not be spending my cash on CDs produced by any company that prevents me from doing this.

Regards

John, Essex

via Facebook 5 November, 2005 01:27
Reply

I won't be buying any more Sony CDs...this is unbelievable.

via Facebook 7 November, 2005 18:41
Reply

At least in Holland you can't illegally download music for personal use because that's not illegal under such circumstances. What is illegal however is to distribute music without proper approval (which many peer-to-peer share programs would like you to do but usually you can select a 'do not share' option somewhere or choose not to share anything that's copyrighted).

Also, there's an additional 'tax' placed on various blank media (such as CD-R) to compensate respective rights holders for 'their loss of income'. At least in Holland.

In short, downloaded music under the described conditions above is perfectly legal in Holland, of excellent quality, can be copied (for personal use) on anything you want until you're blue in the face and is basicly already payed for.

Nevertheless the respective rights holders would like you to purchase music electronicly anyway (with what kind of insurances that they'll protect your credit card details, privacy info, etc?), usually force you to use a certain media player and/or force you to use a certain web browser that only works on a certain OS which isn't cheap either and comes with its own set of headaches, force you to install DRM software that comes with license terms and maintenance you might not like, limit you to the number of devices you can play your music on, might even restrict what you can and can't do with your music, don't mind if you can't restore what's needed should your system crash, listen to their FUD campaigns that don't exactly make you aware of all your rights, hardly mention the risk you run and take, bombard you with commercials (usually banners, e-mails, etc) to "come use our music download manager", etc, etc..

This all has been happening for months and months already but the only thing people get steamed about is the Sony DRM rootkit?

Excuse me but you mean to tell me that you are completely aware of all of the above and are perfectly happy about paying for something you don't need paying for (at least in Holland) while restricting your rights at the same time and setting yourself up for who knows what kind of problems and frustrations later on but a rootkit (which is thankfully used by plenty of malware and spyware spreaders for who knows how long without any action to speak of from Microsoft and various anti-virus vendors; guess we like spyware) installed by Sony is the only thing that really upsets people and even enough to single out Sony?

Well, think of Sony what you will but I would say that the Sony rootkit is the least of your problems should you care to look at the greater picture.

via Facebook 8 November, 2005 22:44
Reply

I have over a thousand cds and have paid hundreds of dollars downloading music from ITunes. I bought the recent Rolling Stones cd and I cannot put it on my computer or into ITunes. I cannot burn it as an mp3 to put into a mix for personal use. This is the last cd I will buy from the Stones' record label. I may even buy the vinyl version next time. With a bit of effort I can tape it or convert to mp3 on my computer. For the record, I buy over $1000 worth of music of all types each year. This practice sucks!

via Facebook 9 November, 2005 20:14
Reply

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in.

You can also log in with Facebook. Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

  • Login

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Community FAQ

Get ZDNet UK's daily newsletter

Enter your email address to sign up

ZDNet UK Live

kevinmchapman

"the very significant number of users" and "many (most) of us" - you have no evidence for these statements. It is a fact that most users are saying...

6 hours ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Marg Menzies Harrison

Another grammar faux pas is the improper use of "you". When sitting down down in a restaurant, for example, I get cringe when the waitress...

8 hours ago by Marg Menzies Harrison via Facebook on 10 flagrant grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
zdnetukuser

And NOW, folks, for Canonical's next trick... Kubuntu is late. Here's a pencil. Draw your own conclusions. cf.:...

8 hours ago by zdnetukuser on Linux Minterface
Moley

@kevinmchapman. The discussion here reflects the very significant number of users who really do like the traditional menu system and who wish to...

10 hours ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

Er, no... It is an efficient means of finding the application/file/setting you need in one place. The icons are a simply a fallback for when you...

12 hours ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

Isn't the provision of a text based search an admission by the developers that the mass of icons approach does not work? I don't need to use a...

13 hours ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

"Unity and GNOME 3 both abandon the old text-based cascading menus in favour of a graphical icon-driven system." Point truly missed. Both use a...

13 hours ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

whs001 - Thank you, I'm glad you liked the article. I absolutely agree with you on your first point. I should perhaps have made it clearer that...

14 hours ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Dennis Nilsson

If we allow corporate interest to dictate the way our government circumvents due process against foreign entities then we should accept the same...

15 hours ago by Dennis Nilsson via Facebook on ACTA stumbles in Germany
GHar123

I totally dislike pirating of works, I fear that artists will be deterred from creating works if they think that they are going to get ripped off....

16 hours ago by GHar123 on ACTA stumbles in Germany
JCB33

How dare film makers, artists or anybody that invests in creativity stop us pirating their works for free. I want to be able to walk into my local...

22 hours ago by JCB33 on ACTA stumbles in Germany
Moley

@GrueMaster. I prefer horses for courses rather than one size fits all. I, and I suspect most other computer users, do not really wish to have...

1 day ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
greycynic

The product that scares me every time I have to use it is the Office 2007 version of Excel. The first bug that I found was applying the median...

1 day ago by greycynic on Ten flawed products that derail productivity
GrueMaster

Nice review and very informative. One thing I'd like to add (in reply to whs001's 1st question), the main reason to have the same interface from...

1 day ago by GrueMaster on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Frederick Wrigley

I'be been using Mint 12 since the RC came out, and I am far more happy with the Cinnamon, the Mate, and, yes (with extensions), theGnome 3...

1 day ago by Frederick Wrigley via Facebook on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
bdantas

Excellent article. One small correction, though--although a fresh installation of Linux Mint 12 will, indeed, provide the user with a version of...

1 day ago by bdantas on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Alan Ralph

In related news, the ISPs club together to get the members of the Home Affairs Select Committee (ya goofed on that part, ZDNet UK) copies of "The...

1 day ago by Alan Ralph via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Alan Ralph

In related news, the ISPs club together to get the members of the Home Affairs Select Committee (ya goofed on that part, ZDNet UK) copies of "The...

1 day ago by Alan Ralph via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Moley

For Gnome 2 die-hards, it is possible to add icons to the bottom panel (or top top panel, if you prefer) which provide the exact Gnome 2...

1 day ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
ramwellian

Your comments would seem pretty naive and immature. Your 'solution' appears to be, "gee, let's all just give in to the hackers and give them...

1 day ago by ramwellian on Cloud computing security: no more oxymoron?