The XP alternative for Vista PCs

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While Microsoft is still pushing Vista hard, the company is quietly allowing PC makers to offer a "downgrade" option to buyers who get machines with the new operating system but want to switch to Windows XP.

The programme applies only to Windows Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and it is up to PC makers to decide how, if at all, they want to make XP available. Fujitsu has been among the most aggressive, starting last month to include an XP disc in the box with its laptops and tablets.

"That's going to help out small and medium-sized businesses," Fujitsu marketing manager Brandon Farris said.

HP started a programme in August for many of its business models. "For business desktops, workstations and select business notebooks and tablet PCs, customers can configure their systems to include the XP Pro restore disc for little or no charge," HP spokeswoman Tiffany Smith said in an email. She said it was too soon to gauge how high customer interest has been. "Since we've only been offering [it] for about a month, we don't really have anything to share on demand."

A Microsoft representative confirmed there were changes made over the summer to make it easier for customers to downgrade to XP.

Under Microsoft's licensing terms for Vista, buyers of Vista Business and Vista Ultimate Edition have always had the right to downgrade to XP, but in practice this could be challenging. In June, Microsoft changed its practices to allow computer makers that sell pre-activated Vista machines to order Windows XP discs that could be included inside the box with PCs, or shipped to customers without requiring additional activation.

Microsoft noted in a statement that neither it nor the PC makers are "obligated to supply earlier versions to end users under the end user licensing terms".

While there is always resistance by some to move to a new operating system, there appears to be particularly strong demand, especially from businesses, to stick with XP.

One of the challenges for both businesses and consumers is Vista's hefty graphics and memory needs.

Lenovo, for its part, has details for its downgrade programme on its IBM ThinkPad website.

Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden said Dell has been offering businesses that have a Premier Page set up the option to order systems with XP, Vista or Vista with XP downgrade rights. There is no extra charge for the downgrade rights.

"We've been offering it and we're still offering it," she said.

HP, Gateway and others still sell machines with XP on them, nearly a year after Microsoft first started offering Vista to businesses. Vista went on sale broadly to consumers in January, at which point XP largely disappeared from retail shelves.

However, demand for XP has remained. In April, Dell brought XP back as an option even on consumer PCs.

There is an issue, though, over how long PC makers can keep selling machines with Windows XP as the preloaded operating system. Microsoft is requiring large PC makers to stop selling XP-based systems as of 31 January, though some PC makers would like to sell XP machines for longer.

"We're all lobbying for it," Farris said.

Talkback

I notice the comment that Microsoft is 'requiring' PC manufacturers to stop supplying XP as of 31st January. That is so typical of Microsoft deciding for the user what they should be buying. If a customer want's XP they should be able to buy XP.

pround 24 September, 2007 09:12
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How is it that a software company can issue orders to independent PC manufacturers? The real losers here are the consumers, having something forced on them that , just maybe, they don't need, or want. Maybe it's time the manufacturers got a little backbone and started selling systems without an OS on them.

ator1940 24 September, 2007 14:19
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so jo blogs goes to pc maker for a pc the maker says what OS do you want, as it does not come with any, well jo blogs has only used windows so he goes for it!
But there may be loads of other OS to try he has never tried them as he's not had the chance, or he tries other OS on his system but then says he does not like it, will they change it? for free? will they allow two changes? or if you pick linux etc, and, it does not do what you want are you stuck with it, same goes with windows, But I think M$ know they have made a bad OS in vista and, jo public has got wise to them. we want no more forced upgrades we want to be able to pick what, when, how we update systems no be forced.

349671 24 September, 2007 23:14
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This where MS loses over the trust that it has build over the years with its customers.
IMO things are noyt just klimited to win dows XP or Windows Vista OS. Even the servers provided by MS like windows server 2003 to windows server 2008, customer should have a choice to buy what he thinks is good and no one can force things on them. This may be the reason for MS embracing open source OS like Linux as well.

Windows Server Hosting 28 September, 2007 10:31
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