Microsoft makes last-gasp OOXML push

NEWS

Weeks away from a crucial International Organization for Standardization vote in Geneva on the ratification of Microsoft's proposed Office Open XML standard, the software giant is engaged in a last-ditch campaign to convince the wider industry that its endeavours are in the best interests of users.

After its first attempt to have Office Open XML (OOXML) approved as an International Organization for Standardization (ISO) standard failed in September, the software giant has spared no expense to ensure that it succeeds at the ballot resolution meeting in February. Microsoft has hosted four conference calls a week with national standards bodies, and recently invited international press to a conference close to its Redmond, Washington headquarters to set the record straight on the OOXML issue.

A stream of Microsoft executives consecutively took to the floor at the press conference to defend the company against its growing army of critics.

Several themes were reiterated.

The first was debunking the notion that there is no need for a second XML standard in the market. Advocates of the OpenDocument Format (ODF), an ISO-approved open standard XML file format developed by a consortium led by IBM and Sun, have argued that a second standard is "redundant".

Microsoft said that there is nothing wrong with having multiple file formats. The company cannot adopt ODF in its own Office suite, it said, because it cannot migrate the legacy of billions of documents in older Microsoft formats onto it. But it does allow users to export their file in ODF format.

"Any investment we make in the future of information work has to take into account what has been done in the past," said Microsoft Office project manager Gray Knowlton. "It's very important when migrating to open file formats that we take older documents into account."

"ODF was designed to omit the functionality of existing documents," Knowlton said. "We, on the other hand, cannot start from scratch. Our customers would never accept that."

It was also argued, on several fronts, that OOXML is a superior standard to ODF.

"Many customers tell us that ODF doesn't meet their needs," said Tom Robertson, general manager of interoperability and standards at Microsoft. "It doesn't provide backwards compatibility, nor does it reflect the rich feature set of Office 2007."

Present at the briefing was Burton Group research director Peter O'Kelly, who, in the week prior, had authored a report that recommended enterprise users adopt OOXML in preference to ODF.

O'Kelly described ODF as "simplistic", while OOXML was described as "more powerful and expressive".

The Microsoft alternative, O'Kelly said, scores points for its ability to incorporate custom schemas, its wider variety of table options and its spreadsheet formula language.

"It is not that there is anything wrong with OpenOffice.org, it's just that, in large organisations, the types of things you are working with are more akin to what [Microsoft] Office can handle," O'Kelly said. "ODF is a fine open-source offering and it's a capable product but, put it side by side with the things you can do with Office 2007, and it's a very different user experience. There are things you might take for granted within Office that simply aren't there."

O'Kelly said he was "unpleasantly surprised" at the vitriol directed at his research organisation since he backed Microsoft's argument.

"This is not a Microsoft-sponsored report," O'Kelly said. "We don't do any sponsored writing at all — no white papers."

Further, he said that it was "coincidental" that the report was released three working days before Microsoft's press briefing and only a few weeks away from the crucial vote.

"We didn't mean to pick a fight," O'Kelly said, claiming that the OOXML report was one of three…

Talkback

Make no mistake, this is a huge deal for Microsoft, and I think they will have OOXML approved. Not because it is a better choice than ODF, but because Microsoft usually gets what it wants. The main problem is backward compatibility, as many governments have old documents and there is a need to be able to access all documents with one program. They may have to bribe, or threaten, but they will get it their way.

ator1940 29 Jan 08 13:37 Reply

ODF is a document format, by no stretch of the imagination does it "provide backward compatibility" as implied by the Microsoft representative. Think PDF, another published standard, does it provide backward compatibility for reading old Microsoft doc files? No, of course not, it's a format and as such can opened up in Adobe Reader, OpenOffice and numerous other applications.

Organizations, particularly governmental ones, should standardize on published document formats for several reasons. Number one being that multiple applications can correctly read and write these documents allowing for wide range of pricing/support structures and competitive bidding in the market place.

If they were to use a proprietary format, not only would they lock themselves in but also force third parties dealing with them to get themselves locked in too. Because of this, the vendor can charge ridiculous amounts for retail copies while potentially giving the government and super-large companies big discounts to discourage them from migrating.

All this is why it's such a big deal for Microsoft and why everything they put out is be a moving target when it comes to being compatible or interoperable, including their MS-OOXML pseudo-standard.

Read the ODF alliance's response to this Burton Group's report:
http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/BurtonGroupResponseFinal.pdf

Goldie Simmons 29 Jan 08 17:21 Reply

For older versions of MS formats Microsoft made the National Archives (UK) use Vista running Windows Virtual PC running Windows 3.11 running Office 95 (which all require licences per machine). After blocking older file formats in Office 2003, they obviously think that this costly, unstable option is acceptable.

Open Office Writer opens and saves in the following formats:

OpenDocument (ODT), Open Office (SXW), MS Word 6.0/95/97/2000/XP/2003 XML, HTML, RTF, TXT, AportisDoc (Palm), DocBook, Pocket Word (PSW).

Open Office Spreadsheet opens and saves in the following formats:

OpenDocument (ODS), OpenOffice (SXC), MS Excel 5/95/97/2000/XP/2003 XML, Data Interchange Format, dBASE (DBF), StarCalc 3/4/5, SYLK, CSV, HTML, Pocket Excel (PXL).

More than enough for most people, and it's free (and so is Sun's Star Office now thanks to Google).

Mark 29 Jan 08 18:13 Reply

"I think too many people are confusing open standards with open source." (Peter O'Kelly, Burton Group)

"ODF is a fine open-source offering and it's a capable product but, put it side by side with the things you can do with Office 2007, and it's a very different user experience." (Peter O'Kelly, Burton Group)

Of course, ODF is an open standard, not an open source offering. But these are merely details...

superm401 31 Jan 08 02:09 Reply

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in

Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Membership FAQ

ZDNet UK Live

dava4444

took there repos down for Ubuntu (I think there back now but they took a few months). I don't think there is a perfect answer,

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

but the community coding and ideas would be gratis, maybe that's why OEM's can be 'slackers' when it comes to Linux. they just sit back and let...

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

continued the bad point about that is hardware, a rival OEM can take your development and use it themselves and to retaliate you would have to go...

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

continued Okay how about something like Google's approach 'semi-open source'? . the OEM pours cash in to development and code, whilst opening it...

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

Hi Adrian em, interesting, yeah okay I can get this vibe, if I wanted VRec on my Tele I would need an embedded and tiny OS and you're totally...

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

Hi Adrian been trying to post for three days .this spam bot is a nightmare. Dava

2 hours ago by dava4444 on How to build a GUI for a toaster
dava4444

Hi James I totally agree. The new site makes me want to come and post, but the spam bot refers me at every turn. I even at one point, thought I...

3 hours ago by dava4444 on Spam? Filter Changed?
sameerhere

the future of mobile will be location and context aware. This means, you will have apps that will suggest you depending where you are right...

4 hours ago by sameerhere on Symbian^3 will do resistive multitouch, says Nokia
kenye2009

hello i would like to have some form of a answer to this question as it concerns the goverment i want to know why if your on state benefits as a...

5 hours ago by kenye2009 on ITN to launch ITV online news service
georgiox

love the LHC info. Keep up the good work. May God bless all in volved.

11 hours ago by georgiox on LHC to run for longest continuous period
sgardia

You are quite right. HDS has not been marketing their products well. USPV is miles ahead in terms of ease of use and technology on enterprise...

15 hours ago by sgardia on Will the SUN set on Hitachi Data Systems OEM relationship?
apexwm

Fedora is the same way as well. The yum update system uses "presto" which shrinks the amount of data needed for download. It's a great system....

1 day ago by apexwm on Can you believe it - 2765 kB will be freed?
cybfor

Updated ID cards considered for 2012: [zdnet.co.uk] The government is considering introducing a new generation of ID... http://dlvr.it/KpBZ

cybfor

Google, Viacom trade blows in YouTube copyright spat: [zdnet.co.uk] Google and the US media giant Viacom have issued... http://dlvr.it/Knht

CIMITL

Be sure to include an audio option - eg. a beep tone - to intensify and reiterate the action. This will greatly benefit some consumers and give...

1 day ago by CIMITL
DataSecurityUK

Data disposal is really important to get right. There are standards set by UK and US federal governments to ensure that data is kept secure. If...

1 day ago by DataSecurityUK
chaycon1

Online Fiber Optic Certification Join a talented group of professionals, who are dedicated to Fiber Optic Networking technology. The online course...

1 day ago by chaycon1 on BT launches 40Mbps fibre-based broadband
chaycon1

Online Fiber Optic Certification Join a talented group of professionals, who are dedicated to Fiber Optic Networking technology. The online course...

1 day ago by chaycon1 on Google to build gigabit broadband to the home
J.A. Watson

Hi Dava, I'm glad to hear from you, and glad that you see things from the other side. I think that is the most important point of the whole...

1 day ago by J.A. Watson on Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) and the Latest Tempest
dava4444

please please please please please please kill that spam bot.

1 day ago by dava4444 on ZDNet UK: faster, smarter, still IT all the way

Featured white papers

Achieving PCI Compliance for:Privileged Password Management & Remote Vendor Access

For multi-store outlets, including retail, banking, grocery, gas, hospitality, convenience stores and others, reducing (or avoiding) the cost of in-store system support and maintenance while maintaining compliance with PCI and other requirements has become a strategic challenge.

Download now

Web 2.0 Security Threats: How to Protect Your Enterprise Network

Speaker: Dr. Chenxi Wang, Principal Analyst, Security and Risk Management, Forrester Research, Inc. As Enterprises are increasingly connected to the Internet and as hard organizational boundaries are fast disappearing, security professionals are facing fresh challenges in Enterprise computing.

Download now

MindManager - Tutorial for New Users - Short

This tutorial is for new MindManager users and teaches you how to get started, by creating maps, reading maps and organizing your information.

Download now