WAP Forum CEO: Eye2Eye - Part 2

Daily Newsletters

Sign up to ZDNet UK's daily newsletter.

NEWS
Back to Part 1 ZDNet UK: The other thing people might be wondering about, especially the content providers who are adopting WAP, is whether this is going to be around a year from now or five years from now. How big is the danger that Geoworks, for example, could start charging everybody that produces WAP services a royalty fee? One WAP Forum member was quoted as saying if Geoworks succeeds, it would be the end for WAP, because no one would want to pay these fees on top of all their other wireless expenses. (For more on the licensing issue, see "WAP scrap causes flap".) Scott Goldman: I'm going to see if I can answer this without dodging your question. The WAP Forum is not a licensing body. What people agree to when they agree to become members of the WAP Forum is to license their intellectual property at fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory rates. If you get a situation where somebody thinks that the license fees that someone is asking for are not fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory, they have two alternatives: they can either negotiate, or they can litigate. And most of the time it is done through negotiation. Now, what you've heard in the public is about Geoworks and Phone.com. What you have not heard about in the public is all of the arrangements that have been going on in private in the WAP Forum, where all these companies have been contributing their intellectual property rights for either zero licensing or very low licensing fees. Geoworks, for whatever reason, they decided to take their licensing issue public. They're entirely entitled to do that, it's a free country, a free world, free speech and all that. Whether or not that license fee will hold up under scrutiny, whether that patent is sustainable, is something that's probably going to be decided in this lawsuit between Phone.com and Geoworks. But the WAP Forum is not going to get involved in that. We're not a licensing body, we don't negotiate. What we're involved in is building the specification. WAP isn't the only way people can get this stuff -- there are other ways of connecting wirelessly to the Internet, such as simply using Internet protocols as NTT's DoCoMo successfully does in Japan, or the "Web clipping" method used by Palm Computing. Microsoft's Pocket PC uses a standard Web browser. Sprint and Phone.com continue to use HDML (Handheld Device Markup Language) -- though they are phasing it out. What makes WAP more valuable than its competitors? I'll address your first comment about HDML. HDML is not a standard, it is a proprietary technology of Phone.com. Phone.com is a founding member of the WAP Forum, and Phone.com is absolutely committed to WAP on a long-term basis. Phone.com developed HDML to have a product to sell to companies before WAP was developed and some companies have taken advantage of it. like Sprint, in the US, they use an HDML browser on their phone and have HDML gateways. But the new versions of Sprint phones that are being sold have dual-mode browsers in them that will work with HDML and with WML [WAP Markup Language], because what we're moving towards is a standards world. That's what a standards world does. Imagine a world where Fords and Chevrolets and VWs all needed different gas stations -- you wouldn't have a very big car market. So if you have a market where everybody can use the same gas station, the same tyres, because there's a standard, it opens the market wider for everybody. That's why WAP is good as a standard, better than a proprietary standard like an HDML or an i-Mode, which is also a proprietary standard. What about these new networks? Everybody's heard about 3G and GPRS networks. Once scenario is, super high-bandwidth phones are available, suddenly who needs WAP? You can do whatever you want. First of all, 3G is still a long ways off. Products, sites -- you need infinitely more sites in a 3G system -- products are not readily available yet, you've got a huge investment on the part of companies who have already invested in 2G networks, who want to advertise the cost of those networks. So the products, the infrastructure is not going to be there for several years. That having been said, let's presume 3G was here today. WAP is where it is today because in any radio environment, the radio spectrum is finite. And like any radio resource, you must manage this spectrum to get the most out of it. As the wireless world siphons more and more users away from wired, traditional land-line carriers, more and more people will use wireless for voice, and more of that spectrum is going to be consumed by voice usage. As that happens the need to manage it becomes even more acute, and WAP's ability to manage that spectrum is unsurpassed. But as these technologies arrive, WAP is going to have to adapt to be able to support things like two-way video or high-bandwidth downloads, and there's some doubt about whether the spec is going to be able to stay relevant. We have within WAP Forum about 30 expert groups that work on everything from billing to e-commerce and so on. We have groups right now that are working on large-file download, multimedia, real-time video conferencing. All these things we're looking at in terms of 3G, we're already building those into the specification to accommodate that so that we can provide a robust, rich user experience and still manage the spectrum at the same time. Back to Part 1 What do you think? Tell the Mailroom. And read what others have said. Take me to the Mobile Technology Special Take me to the XML Special Take me to the WAP Access Guide

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in.

You can also log in with Facebook. Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

  • Login

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Community FAQ

Get ZDNet UK's daily newsletter

Enter your email address to sign up

ZDNet UK Live

45283

I think WinRT is fantastic. I just wish it was an option for people that didn't want to go through Microsoft's App Store with its attendant...

2 hours ago by 45283 on Why Windows 8 needs architectural hygiene for WOA
Burn-IT

Nine people? £30m? Who's back pocket is that lot going in? And IF they say it is for new buildings, what about all the ones the government has...

4 hours ago by Burn-IT on Police set to launch three £30m e-crime hubs
ewallace

Just to be clear, nobody knows what is in the text of ACTA, here is a photograph of the text of ACTA http://twitpic.com/8h9iju as submitted to the...

4 hours ago by ewallace on ACTA: Facts, misconceptions and questions
fgvrg56

Unfortunately main issue is that ASUS is refusing to accept that they make some mistake on this version of asus Transformer prime. 1 - GPS sensor...

5 hours ago by fgvrg56 on Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime Wi-Fi & GPS problems?
Ben Woods

@Marcus A fair question. Just talked with Archos which said it was working on an announcement for next week....

6 hours ago by Ben Woods on Archos confirms G9 Ice Cream Sandwich update schedule
Marcus Karlsson

Any update on this, considering the claimed "first week of February"?

7 hours ago by Marcus Karlsson via Facebook on Archos confirms G9 Ice Cream Sandwich update schedule
apexwm

Bill Goodrich : Just as al_langevin pointed out, with Windows Server 2008 there is no Services for Macintosh anymore. It's gone, not available....

15 hours ago by apexwm on Windows Server 2008 drops the ball for Mac compatibility
txtrainguy

Replying to an old topic that I'm currently facing with my CEO (who is on a Mac). Our servers are primarily Windows Servers, office is about...

22 hours ago by txtrainguy on Windows Server 2008 drops the ball for Mac compatibility
k0tcs3

Sure, that makes perfect sense. Pay wrong-doers money and thank them for breaching your security and pointing out your flaws, that would surely...

22 hours ago by k0tcs3 on US indicts Romanian over NASA climate change hack
Random_Error

I think he's referring specifically to Android apps, as Apple do regulate their App Store, but Google seem to let any old crap onto the Android store!

22 hours ago by Random_Error on RIM: BlackBerry will keep 'garbage' apps out of store
Paul Fezziwig

Keep the crap apps out?! How will they compete with Android and Apple's claim to fame of having so many life changing apps? I wonder if the media...

1 day ago by Paul Fezziwig via Facebook on RIM: BlackBerry will keep 'garbage' apps out of store
Aigars Mahinovs

It has been shown time after time that if there is an author store that sells the songs at even 1$ per song and gives you a high-quality digital...

1 day ago by Aigars Mahinovs via Facebook on Copyright isn't working, says European Commission
awbMaven

""As a result of Butyka's alleged conduct, researchers were unable to use the computers for more than two months while NASA removed the malicious...

1 day ago by awbMaven on US indicts Romanian over NASA climate change hack
subhorup

It simultaneously worries me and uplifts me that a self-proclaimed group of internet activists name themselves after Indian mythical figures....

2 days ago by subhorup on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
naviathan

It's actually far easier to work anonymously on the internet than you think. With tools like Tor bouncing your traffic around the world before...

2 days ago by naviathan on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
Agnostic_OS

1000272134 and bluedalmatian with you both there but then I'm still in 10.04 land (and happy with it)

2 days ago by Agnostic_OS on Ten factors that make Ubuntu 11.10 a hit
apexwm

Interesting article and definitely see your points on the products mentioned. One of the top products for our Help Desk (approximately 20% of all...

2 days ago by apexwm on Ten flawed products that derail productivity
Paul Hutchinson

Absolutely - this should obviously not be handled my isp - but handled by their hosting operator. What's been suggested here is that my isp police...

2 days ago by Paul Hutchinson via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Techs UK

Looks like a great phone. I don't notice any deficiencies in WP7. used IOS before, that's pretty good. I don't spend much time in Apps, all i need...

2 days ago by Techs UK on Nokia pins US 're-entry' hopes on Lumia 900
Larry Bloggy

Now with the help of these apps you are always synced with MS outlook while on the move. Just download apps like xobni or outlookreflex and get...

2 days ago by Larry Bloggy via Facebook on Outlook Social Connector beta 2 and the LinkedIn connector