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I live in an ADSL exchange area and cant get broadband and BT are doing nothing. But this is still loads more than NTL are doing to try and get cable in my street, I stand more chance of BT enahcing technology than a 3rd party providing cable in my area.
Split them up and the revenue from the retail wont be supporting the infrastructure and they will have to expand
I too live in a broadband exchange area bu t I am too far from the exchange. Cable has not reached my area and probably never will.
If I lived in remote Wales or Scotland without a prospect of cable or broadband then the appropriate development authority would subsidise Satellite broadband, but I live in London and the LDA do not have this on their agenda.
The only other options are unaffordable (ISDN2e or a private line).
The net result is that as more and more govenment services and services in general are offered over the web and and in reality need a fast line not a 56k modem then I must conclude that I and my family am being gradually disenfranchised.
If you think thats annoying what til you here this! My neighbour has Broadband!!!! But BT says we are to far from the exchange now you gotta and it to them! I thought NTL were bad but looks like there cowboys as well!!!
IF YOU RING BT AND ASK WHY YOU CAN NOT GET BROADBAND THEIR ANSWER WILL BE THAT YOU LIVE OUTSIDE THE 6 MILE RADIUS OF THE EXCHANGE .....WELL THIS IS THE ANSWER I GOT ...... I SAID TO THE OPERATER "THIS IS STRANGE AS I LIVE WELL WITHIN THE 6 MILE AREA" .. "ARE WELL" came THE REPLY ....."YOU MAY LIVE WITHIN THE SIX MILE RADIUS BUT YOUR TELEPHONE LINE TRAVELS THE LONG ROUTE THAT MAKES IT FURTHER THAN THE 6 MILES .......VERY ODD I SAID ONLY MY NEIGHBOURS ON BOTH SIDES OF ME HAVE BROADBAND .................NOT UNUSUAL SHE SAID SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST UNLUCKY..
BT ARROGANCE WHO DO THEY THINK THEYARE ARE KIDDING !!!!!!
PROBS WITH BT!
Sympathies to all who have had negative response from BT regarding Broadband. May be my experiences (successfull) may help.
1. There is a number you can dial (17070?) which will tell you how far you are (via wire) from the exchange.
2. Sign up with bt broadband, They hate the regular bt lot and will arrange to have your libe checked for you by themselves
3. Phone up OFTEL. Crazy, but it works. When I did it, they phoned up BT and told them to retest my line, as BT said my house was 6.5 miles from the exchange yet their own self test said I was 5.6 miles!!
4. Sit back and wait for the telephone call from BT. Oh, yes. They do phone you (within 24 hours in my case) and said that they "were prepared to try it just this once, as an experiment"
5. Voila, broadband.
By the way, my line noise is 63.5 dB with a noise margin of 21dB. If your figures are better (lower line noise, higher margin) you will get broadband. BT don't like it when you demand to know your figures, but tell them you want them for inclusion with your complaint to OFTEL
What is BT's problem with rolling out Broadband? I now live in Germany and we are on our second generation broadband. The 756k, 1mb and 1,5mb rates have been upgraded to 1, 2 and 3mb respectively.
When I was in England, BT said I couldn't upgrade to broadband because I had ISDN. Here in Germany, ADSL is bundled in with their ISDN service. If you have an old analogue line, you need to upgrade it to ISDN at the same time you get DSL.
I have the 2mb line now (19.99€ flat-rate per month).
And all of this from the incumbent ex-monopoly Deutsche Telekom. And without having to call the equivalent of Ofcom. When I rented my flat, I went to my local electrical store and asked for a phone connection with ADSL. They looked up my post code and arranged the installation time.
The people here complain about what a bad deal DT provide, but after reading the horror stories still coming out of the UK, I'd rather have the minor hassles with DT than the bloody-mindedness of BT...