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BT has unveiled its latest weapon in the fight to sign up broadband customers -- subsidised air travel.

Any customer who subscribes to one of BT's consumer high-speed Internet access packages before 20 June will receive a voucher entitling them to a return economy flight to one of 11 airports in Europe and the US.

"This is yet another example of BT taking the lead in the market to drive broadband uptake and make Broadband Britain a reality," claimed Duncan Ingram, managing director of BT Openworld. "For anybody who may have been recently thinking about installing broadband in their home, now is the time."

However, BT's offer is subject to a number of conditions which have the potential to leave some customers paying more than they might expect.

For a start, the flights aren't completely free, as customers will have to pay airport tax and any travel insurance in order to get to Amsterdam, Barcelona, Brussels, Nice, Paris, Prague, Atlanta, Boston, New York, Philadelphia or Washington.

Also, customers can only depart from Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted and Manchester. BT has warned that it's not possible to reach all 11 destinations directly from each of these four UK airports, and that customers will have pay to get themselves to the departure lounge (apart for Northern Ireland residents who also will get a return flight from Belfast to a mainland UK airport).

Voucher-holders will only be eligible to travel with "selected airlines" -- which BT says "may include BMI, British Airways, Air France, KLM and easyJet".

Once a customer has signed up, they need to give BT at least 45 days' warning of the day on which they want to travel. And finally, flights to the US airports can also not be taken during July or August.

Despite these restrictions, BT's offer could stimulate higher broadband take-up in the UK. Several rival ISPs have recently announced cheaper products, so customers will have to decide whether to plump for a subsidised flight rather than another ADSL product that might be a few pounds a month cheaper.

BT must also avoid repeating the experience of Hoover, which in the early 1990s ran a promotion where anyone who spent more than £100 on a Hoover product got a free flight to America. This offer was hugely popular -- as flights to the US at that time cost much more than £100. But the promotion proved a disaster, as Hoover hasn't anticipated the level of demand, and resulted in legal action from customers who accused the company of invoking bogus technicalities to avoid paying for their flights.

Talkback

I just hope that this Free Flight Promotion is better orgainized than the know Infamous Hoover Flight Fiasco. It was a Fiasco from start to the end! At one time there were more writs flying than Hoover Customers!

via Facebook 15 May, 2004 10:36
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I also see that Energylinx, one of the larger energy price comparisons is also offering free flights.

via Facebook 16 May, 2004 16:03
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Should put Harry Cichy, in charge of all,
" Free Flight Offers", then all will get there flights!

via Facebook 21 May, 2004 14:33
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I watched the BBC2 Program, Hoover Flight Fiasco, part of the Trouble At The Top series.
It was a great documentry like they used to be made! Give us more! Those three guys who crashed the Maytag AGM, should be put forward for an award?

via Facebook 24 May, 2004 14:56
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The BBC 2 Trouble at The Top Team showed the Hoover Flight Fiasco from start to finish.
I thought it was a good even handed view.
I am sure there was a lot more that could have" gone in". I am sure" Maytag" team of Lawyers watched this one. The program & it's makers should be very proud ! Keep it up BBC!!

via Facebook 26 May, 2004 07:13
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BBC Trouble At The Top, " Hoover Flight Fiasco", 1.7million viewers watched the Documentary on a start to finish insight inoto the troubled Hoover promotion. It showed at the start Hoover had not even purchased the flight tickets, however in the end they had to purchase over 220,000 tickets. This was a well made program that gave an even handed view. The three guys who went to the USA,
to ask Len Hadley CEO, off Hoover's parent the Maytag corporation. (questions on the fiasco), must be the real heroes. On Hadley retirement he said mistakes had been made.
Harry Cichy leader of the group against Maytag said, " we had our meeting, with Maytag. Obejective acheived!". This most go down as the largest corporate blunder & one that Hoover never really got over!

via Facebook 11 June, 2004 09:23
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I understand that there is a book out soon on the Hoover Flight Promotion,
ISBN 0-9546949-0-2
"Fighting the Corporation."
Maytag, Harry & Hoover, Should be an interesting read, if the BBC documentary is anything to go by! Harry was allready told;
" Not to mess with the corporation!"
The book goes a step further than the BBC documentary. Covering the marketing & brand & how Hoover have managed to keep hold of their Royal Warrant.

via Facebook 11 June, 2004 17:23
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Hoover Royal Warrant removal. A request to Her Majesty The Queen on the removal of Hoover's Royal Warrant. Following the recent
BBC Documentary on the Hoover Flight Fiasco.

via Facebook 18 June, 2004 09:15
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Maytag owners of Hoover Europe at the time of the Hoover Flights Fiasco, workers at their Newton HQ, Iowa, USA, have been on Strike. They will resume talks on the 23 June 2004. The amazing thing on hearing the news today, the 18 June 2004 their stock has taken a masive dive? Could investers in Maytag stock know something more?

via Facebook 18 June, 2004 19:46
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Hoover should loose their Royal Warrant.
BBC program said it all!

via Facebook 21 June, 2004 06:44
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Candy the company that purchased Hoover Europe in 1995 after the Flight Offer from Maytag Corp who still own Hoover in the USA.
It would seem that Candy have never made a comment on the Hoover Fiasco? Did they really know what a legacy they purchased?

via Facebook 23 June, 2004 10:16
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Candy & The Hoover Royal Warrant? Since Candy purchased Hoover from USA owners Maytag, why did the Royal Warrant get passed on. Candy did not want the liabilty of the Hoover Flight Fiasco? Why should they be entitled to the Royal Warrant? Clearley Hoover did not behave in a way that they should hold on to the Royal Warrant. I aggree the Royal Warrant should be removed from all Hoover goods! They are not worthy!

via Facebook 26 June, 2004 14:33
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Hoover flight offer used,TV adds to sell this offer, many complaints were made to the ASA on this subject? The ISP, ( Institute of Sales Promotions), also made a complaint to the ASA on Hoover? Yet the ASA has not made a judgement or commented on the " Hoover flight Offer". Why?

via Facebook 27 June, 2004 08:00
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Hoover seem to be more famous these day's for the Know Infamous Hoover Flight Fiasco.
When you say Hoover these days you no longer think of Vacuums but " Flights"& " Fiasco". It would seem Maytag, Hoover Europe owners at the time, still own Hoover in USA.

via Facebook 28 June, 2004 13:10
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Hoover " Fiasco" Free Flight BBC with out doubt the Largest Marketing Blunder in the World. There will probably never ever be another Hoover. The fear of another Hoover will keep all those MARKETING Guru's in jobs for life. Hear is some of the names that played a part in the Hoover Fiasco, in hiding? Over the Infamous promotion: Len Hadley retired, Edward H Graham retired, James Powell ?, Richard Rankin Tate & Lyle. Aron Gembling?
William Foust? Graeme James Aiken?, Brian Webb?, James Gilbey?, Eddie McAvoy?, Graham Cunningham?, Carroline Knight?

via Facebook 29 June, 2004 17:54
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Never has a promotion like the Hoover Flight Fiasco griped the nation. There is Drama, intrigue, bugging, breakinns, car chases, private detective agency, heavies, media, a documentary on the BBC. Top exectives from Maytag dealing in million's of $, you can not write this stuff! Is there a price on Harry Cichy head yet? His personnell Life Insurance must be High!!!! Great Stuff!!! Keep it up!!!

via Facebook 30 June, 2004 20:17
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Hoover some pictures on the Infamous Hoover Flight Fiasco at Maytag HQ Dependabilty Square Newton Iowa. Sandy Jack, Harry Cichy & Lee Robertson crash the Maytag AGM. BBC Trouble At The Top crew.
go to: http://www.groups.aol.com/hoovergate

via Facebook 1 July, 2004 12:51
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Caroline Kinght was Hoover's spokesperson?
Seemed to be saying nothing was wrong with the free flight promotion. Rather like Nero watching Rome burn!

via Facebook 1 August, 2004 11:25
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AVON CALLING?

Ten years after the Infamous Hoover Free Flight Fiasco & the ASA needs to wait for complaints to come in? Avon gets rapped over 27 complaints on it's Free phone offer?
750,000 applicants & only 60,000 phones?
Look how many sales they got? 750,000 applicants generates a whole lot of sales!
The ASA should have things in place to stop this nonsence? Or have they no Teeth?
It's Hoover all over again!!

via Facebook 3 August, 2004 12:09
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Hoover still Number One in the Blunder stakes.
The Infamous Hoover Free Flight Fiasco still ranks as the Largest corporate Marketing Blunder. Despite Avon calling & having a reported 750,000 applicants for Free phones from Orange shops & only 60,000 phones. Hoover are still number One & have not been toppled in the BLUNDER stakes. Maytag were the owners of Hoover at the time of the Hoover Fiasco, but sold out to Candy Group in 1995 some would say as a direct result of the Flight promotion.

via Facebook 3 August, 2004 12:46
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Maytag Harry & Hoover. Marketing Insiders are all talking about the Harry Effect, has Harry put Newton on the Map. For Maytag over the know Infamous Hoover Flight Fiasco. Maytag are just Wild about Harry, like the song go's.

via Facebook 4 August, 2004 21:13
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Rise Travel SIGB RISE TRAVEL FLIGHT, MKM HOUSE MANCHESTER, M16 OXX. Name seems to be comming up on a lot of Free Flight Offers. Notibly at the moment by E & J GALLO offer of Free Flights to USA at J Sainsbury. Is the takeup much larger than expected? Could there be Troulbe in store?
Applications seem to be taking a longer than expected time to confirm with Rise? Will this promotion topple the Hoover Free Flights Fiasco. Any concerns should be directed to the ASA.

via Facebook 11 August, 2004 18:04
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Rise Travel the travel agent behind the BT & E&J Gallo Free Flights. Tel: 0161-607-6262. Is another Hoover waiting in the Wings.

via Facebook 13 August, 2004 15:09
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Re. Rise Travel [free flight] offer.
I know of 4 seperate applications for free flights submitted approx. 10 weeks and to date [despite phone calls] nothing has been heard re. flights, despite the fact that flights
requested are now only 4 weeks away.

via Facebook 15 August, 2004 11:06
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We took up the offer back at the start, and plumped for December or October we have been offered February only to the States. Chicago was our first choice destination.

via Facebook 20 August, 2004 12:16
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Having waited quite a long time, I can now confirm I've received a letter from RISE TRAVEL and booking form from E&J GALLO. Just holding thumbs for the flight dates etc.

via Facebook 25 August, 2004 10:35
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After 3 weeks, I got a letter of apol blaming delays at the sorting office in delivering their mail and unprecedented demand, with a booking form!
Here's hoping.

via Facebook 26 August, 2004 09:05
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I've just recieved a phone call from Rise, 36 days after sending them my form and only 12 days before my requested depature date, telling me that there are no more flights to New York available AT ALL, and no flights to America until January.

Not only is September the only month I have free to travel, New York is the only place I particularly want to go to, though I would accept flights to Boston or Washington.

Massively, massively dissapointed.

via Facebook 26 August, 2004 17:20
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Rise Travel is basically a bit of a con. I have applied for both Express holiday promotions. After several phone calls a travel consultant eventually got back to me offering different dates than those asked for and flying out on a monday (not a weekend or at least a thursday) plus I was told I had to upgrade. The express had mentioned that the flights would be from Glasgowor Prestwick but in reality I almost certain they are all from Prestwick with Ryan Air. Like the majority of people I was unable to commit at a moment's notice but phoned back first thing, as agreed with the travel consultant, only to be told there was no availability on the outbound flight and that I could go for 4 nights at an extra cost of 75 pounds per night. The consulant was not prepared to offer me any alternative dates. I think most people would agree that this could hardly be called a guaranteed free holiday.
I haven't heard about the Us offer either and doubt wether that will happen either. I am very dissapointed especially since I had to buy that awful paper, the Express, for weeks to collect the tokens.

via Facebook 27 August, 2004 17:10
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After reading these last few posts i'm not sure if i'm reassured or worried! I've also applied for the E & J Gallo flights offer, and so far haven't heard anything (it's nearly 4 weeks since i sent my application), however as some of you have waited ages i guess i shouldn't be too concerned. I'm free to travel on any date within the promotion, so fingers crossed that'll work in my favour. I guess i'll just have to wait & see whether i hear anything, but to be honest i won't be hugely upset if i don't...i'll just get drunk on my wine!

via Facebook 29 August, 2004 14:56
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Free Flight problems or lack of them Harry would like to hear about any Free Flight problems contact Harry at Harrycichy@aol.com

via Facebook 1 September, 2004 11:54
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The same happened to me but I sent a request for someone to contact me via their webpage and a few days later someone contacted me and voila got the flights.

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 15:56
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Still waiting for mine it's been weeks. Does anybody know the airline they are using?

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 17:32
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Delta Airlines hope this helps

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 17:57
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Try contacting their customer services area on 0161 877 1113. Hope you can get through. I'm flying next month although i'm not sure if i had more luck as i'm flying to San Francisco as opposed to New York.

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 18:11
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Rise Travel 0161 877 1113 tried all day no luck.

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 18:17
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Rise Travel are these the same guys involved in the BT Free flight offer.

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 18:22
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I have another number 0161 927 3200/Fax 0161 233 0220 for Rise Travel

via Facebook 2 September, 2004 18:34
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Delta Airlines number is Tel: 0800 414 767 & Fax: 020 8601 6037 May be of Help.

via Facebook 3 September, 2004 12:24
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Manchester Trading Standards numbers might be helpfull. Tel: 0161 234 1555
Fax: 0161 957 8379.

via Facebook 3 September, 2004 12:47
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ASA - Advertising Standards Authority, 2 Torrington Place London WC1E 7HW
Tel: 020 7580 5555 Fax:020 7631 3051
www.asa.org.uk ( complaints ) on offer.

via Facebook 3 September, 2004 13:00
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Beware of any Daily Express offers and particularly any offers associated with RIse Travel. They are at it again offering £10 cruises through Daily Express offers. After 21 telephone calls and no further down the line than when I made my first, I can tell you they lie,cheat and con you. Beleive me it is not worth the agro. BOYCOTT RISE AND THE DAILY EXPRESS.

via Facebook 3 September, 2004 13:39
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Report all complaints on Rise Travel to the ASA.

via Facebook 3 September, 2004 13:43
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Rise Travel recently sent me a form saying they were having problems at the sorting office and would like me to fill a form in and send it back. Has anyone else got this? if so can you tell me the address to send the form back to. I wish id have read this site before purchasing 6 bottles of wine. theres still 4 bottles unopened and the prospect of a free trip to the us is looking less likley.

via Facebook 4 September, 2004 16:40
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E&J Gallo American Flight Promotion
MKM
Nelson House
Park Road
Timperley
Altrincham
WA14 5AB

I think the form is getting sent out as the cut out of the box doesn't really provide enough information and they are inundated with applications. Best of luck hope you get your flights.

via Facebook 5 September, 2004 14:47
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ASA on making a complaint, will need to know what flights you tried to obtain (i.e. destination, dates, class etc) and the reason that the advertiser have given for not providing you with them. www.asa.org.uk

via Facebook 5 September, 2004 17:51
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Someone posted that they asked Rise Travel to contact them by accessing the Rise Travel website - what is this website?

via Facebook 5 September, 2004 20:49
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6 September 2004


To Whom It May Concern



To all those experiencing delays in receiving their Rise Travel flight vouchers through promotional offers.

Due to the unprecedented success of these promotions and high volume of response, coupled with post office gremlins, Rise Travel apologises for any inconvenience caused to customers.

Please ring this dedicated number and we will promise to get back to you within 48 hours and endeavour to book your flights as quickly as possible – 01274 256058.

Rise Travel appreciates all comments made but wishes to point out that it successfully books over 50,000 European and worldwide flights a year and will ensure all applications are dealt with efficiently.

Yours sincerely,
RISE TRAVEL

via Facebook 6 September, 2004 16:25
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How can a company give you a flight that is worth £426. for the spend value of £24.99?
Wasn't the case at Hoover you had to spend £100? The loses on these new flight deals must be fantastic.

via Facebook 7 September, 2004 19:04
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Rise Travel come under Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council boundaries. Trafford Trading Standards Tel: 0161 912 3845 trading.standards@trafford.gov.uk Tell them your problems, Dates Destinations.

via Facebook 8 September, 2004 08:28
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