US stands firm over Internet control

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...has played an amazingly important role in the past. It was because of the US government and the research funded by it that the Internet exists in the first place.

We think it's working very well. We don't think there are any pressing problems associated with it.

At the preliminary meeting in New York last year, I found that discussions were all over the map, including spam, viruses and computer security. Is there a lack of focus here?
Issues like spam and cybercrime and viruses are extraordinarily important. We've encouraged WSIS and other forums to work cooperatively in solving those issues. So we seek to have a very robust and inclusive discussion about these issues and others as well.

If critics of the US join forces at WSIS and oppose the US, are there any red lines for the US that the administration would find intolerable?
We've been very clear in what we think the summit should be accomplishing and should be focusing on. We continue to work with governments around the world and with civil society and with the private sector to secure an outcome that everyone can be proud of. I'm not worried too much about other results.

So there's no red line?
At the end of June, the administration issued its four principles. We, of course, stick by those four principles. They're very clear — the world asked us to issue clear principles. We make clear what the US government will continue to do and what we seek to do with the world going forward. That includes engaging in a dialogue in multiple forums.

We don't think of these things as red lines or blue lines or green lines. Rather, we think of these things as a clear articulation of where the world should be going.

Is the US worried about splitting the root, so that computers in two nations will find different Web sites at the same domain name?
I have not heard any spokesperson for a government say that their government was interested in the creation of new root systems. I've heard governments talk about other governments being interested. I think that's important.

The government officials I've spoken with say all of the incentives are to work on the current system.

Any new system, any new network would, it seems to us, want to be interoperable with the current system. One of the keys here that is often overlooked is that the Internet is technically, constantly getting better. We're not interested in trying to lock in the current system as the right system.

Have there been any behind-the-door negotiations to try to hammer out an accord prior to Tunisia?
We've had a series of prepcoms (preparatory committee meetings) including one in Geneva. That prepcom will be resumed in Tunis starting on Sunday. We, of course, reached out and talked with colleagues around the world and talked with governments and the private sector. We'll see what happens.

Which allies does the US government have here? Even Europe seems to have joined China, Cuba, Iran and so on.
It's hard to pick and choose individual countries. I think the key here is what I heard at Geneva, at the prepcom — there's important common ground that can and will form the basis of a very productive meeting.

You can't name any allies?
I make it a point never to characterise other governments' positions, so I'm not going to do it at this stage.

What's the best-case scenario out of WSIS?
The best case is the world gathers together and reaffirms the importance of using technology to better people around the world — to provide increased opportunity for people economically, socially and politically. That would be a very important development.

How much of this dispute is symbolic? If the US said, "We'll leave decisions to ICANN," which has an international board of directors, would that be enough?
I don't know whether any other group, critics or friends would be satisfied (and I'd rather not speculate).

Talkback

As said before, no single enitity should have (mostly) control of globally important systems or services. Should it come to a showdown of force then it would be better to endure one big pain then a lot of small ones. The goal should be to decentralize and make diverse (as in how many who's control what) anything that (might) have a global impact.

via Facebook 11 November, 2005 23:41
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America INVENTED the internet.
American taxpayers PAID for the research that went into inventing the internet through DARPA.
American know how and ingenuity created the internet.

If you Europeans think we are going to hand over the control of the internet to a bunch of medieval mullahs from Iran, who delight in chopping off people's heads, hands and fingers, and stone women to death, you are indeed very sadly mistaken!
Not gonna happen.

via Facebook 12 November, 2005 01:01
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Dear Smithy, I'm sorry you feel so much aggression against the rest of the world. Just to mention: I also don't approve the censorship of some countries, but that aside.

Think of the following situation: the US gets total control over the internet. Other nations won't be happy with that and come up with a newer, and likely better/faster/more secure internet. Aren't you scared that the US then could becomes isolated from that information source? Maybe the US will see a reduction in trade which isn't good for anyone.

I, for one, would not like it if that happened. And keep in mind that other countries also invested in gateways and other infrastructures (hardware of software wise).

via Facebook 12 November, 2005 22:48
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Dilbert,

"Other nations won't be happy with that and come up with a newer, and likely better/faster/more secure internet. "

Yeah?
Why haven't they,then?
More to the point, if they could, why didn't they invent the internet themselves?
Most advances in internet technology today, still come from the US.
After all we own Cisco AND Juniper,the biggest makers of internet routers on the planet.


Dilbert :"Aren't you scared that the US then could becomes isolated from that information source?"

Most of the world's top internet portal, top internet businesses and sources of information are American, like Yahoo, Msn, Microsoft.com, Amazon, Ebay, Google, etc etc..

It's not America you gotta worry about getting cut off from from information sources, its the rest of the world you gotta worry about them losing access to the best business and sources on the internet.

via Facebook 13 November, 2005 01:24
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Smithy, It's like saying:" Well, the Wright brothers flew for the first time (powered flight) so only the US may build aiplanes."
That makes no sense. All over the world inventions are made and, although the inventor should be getting paid for it, I think it would be hard to say to the others that they cannot use it or determine how to use it.

""Other nations won't be happy with that and come up with a newer, and likely better/faster/more secure internet. "

Yeah?
Why haven't they,then? "

Because they invested in the infrastructure of this internet and it will take a lot of money to change this infrastructure. One can already see where this could go, Europe is making its version of GPS called Galileo, and China has its own cheap road navigation system so there IS a shift going on. Countries like to be independent, that goes for the US as well as the rest of the world.

You wrote: "Most of the world's top internet portal, top internet businesses and sources of information are American, like Yahoo, Msn, Microsoft.com, Amazon, Ebay, Google, etc etc.."

Correct. But, there is another factor called export and China and Europe, for instance, are big markets. Information about products, shipment and even money transfers are sent across the Internet. If the US would not be able to track their orders or to promote their products to the rest of the world they would become isolated. That's what I tried to make clear.

via Facebook 13 November, 2005 08:17
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Berners-Lee is the one who started the internet... father of the internet - or however you want to call it. Is he an American? no. He is from Europe man - London. Studied in England. Are the google guys all American - nei. Sergey Brin is a Moscow guy. There are tons of examples I could give you, where Europeans, Indians, Russians, Chinese people (PentiumM was designed in Israel dude) do great stuff when it comes to the "whole IT business." I guess Smithy will never get the idea of the internet - it's about connecting the world man.
regards, thomas, switzerland

via Facebook 13 November, 2005 22:37
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Well, if the stable democracies wanted to form a group to exclusely administer/provide oversite for ICANN, I would not have a kneejerk reaction against that thought. The idea of the corrupt Byzantine bureaucracy known as the UN having any involvement should make everyone shudder.

via Facebook 15 November, 2005 16:11
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even though im not american, i must agree with smithy. america invented the internet, the rest of the world tapped in. they have no reason to hand over control. america isn't screwing with it, or sensoring anything. i dont see why they're complaining, its been fine so far. if the other countries fear the u.s. could cut them off in a conflict, well its their problem, its not their system to begin with.

via Facebook 16 November, 2005 04:11
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Get a clue. Without European inventions the US wouldn't even exist. Next time you think about who should own what do think a couple of years more back.

via Facebook 17 November, 2005 22:30
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"Get a clue. Without European inventions the US wouldn't even exist. Next time you think about who should own what do think a couple of years more back.".

Read what you wrote, then go slam the door on your head a couple of times.

You are clearly not a very logical person. The large amount of land which has been assigned the name "United States / United States of America" would still exist.

Why dont YOU get a clue?

via Facebook 19 November, 2005 20:17
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Like as per usual our American friends believe the world fuctions around them. Oh dear!!! Instead of been more down to earth and admitting that the Internet and in particular the web was a multiple nations invention. (the w.w.w was created at CERN European Agency by an Englishman named Tim Berners-Lee). They go on about saying, we did this and we did that.
The truth is that you guy should be greatfull that Great Britain was the nation that colonised you and not the Spanish that left a mess in the rest of the American continent. Thanks to the U.K. you Americans and Canadians enjoy the standard of living you have.
But in the end it's not regular Americans fault that your government and media feeds you with all that rubbish about the land of freedom and the american dream, instead of telling you the truth about your place in History.
This is not to say you don't deserve been the largest economy in the world, just making you think that there is a lot of factor that put you there. Not that you guy are above regular humans.

via Facebook 17 May, 2006 22:28
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