Skype calls on FCC to open network access

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Skype petitioned the Federal Communications Commission earlier this week to force US mobile operators to loosen controls on what kinds of hardware and software can be connected to their networks.

In a document dated 20 February, Skype asked the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to apply to the wireless industry what is known as the "Carterfone" rules, which would allow consumers to use devices and software of their choice on mobile phone networks.

Skype's motivations are clear. The company has created software that allows people to make free phone calls across the internet. And now it wants users who access the internet via a mobile device to be able to use their software and services, too.

"We want to allow our users to use the Skype software where ever they are," said Christopher Libertelli, senior director of government and regulatory affairs for Skype. "And we want to make sure the policy is set in the right direction so that when Skype users want to use it on mobile devices, they'll be able to."

The "Carterfone" rules, which were enacted in 1968 during the old AT&T's monopoly of the phone industry, allow consumers to hook any device up to the phone network, so long as it did not harm the network. Prior to these rules, AT&T provided all telephones and devices connected to the telephone network, and it routinely sued companies that sold unauthorised products that could attach to the network.

The rules helped spur new innovations, such as the fax machine and internet modem. In more recent times, the principle has been extended to other communication networks, such as cable modem and DSL. This has paved the way for companies such as Linksys to sell wireless routers.

But the principle has not been applied to cellular networks. As a result, the market has evolved into one that is heavily controlled by carriers. They dictate which phones are used on their networks, what content users can access, and which applications can run on phones. Some have even included specific terms in their service contracts that prevent customers from downloading and using software from Skype on their networks.

Tim Wu, a law professor at Columbia University, published a report earlier this month also arguing the "Carterfone" rules should apply to the cellular industry, because otherwise carriers exert too much influence on the design of the devices and the applications that run on them.

"They have used [their] power to force equipment developers to omit or cripple many consumer-friendly features," he writes. "Carriers have also forced manufacturers to include technologies, like 'walled garden' internet access, that neither equipment developers nor consumers want. Finally, through under-disclosed 'phone-locking', the US carriers disable the ability of phones to work on more than one network."

Not surprisingly, the mobile phone industry's trade organisation, CTIA, doesn't agree with Skype or Wu that regulations are needed.

"Skype's self-interested filing contains glaring legal flaws and a complete disregard for the vast consumer benefits provided by the competitive marketplace," Steve Largent, chief executive of the CTIA, said in a statement. "The call for imposing monopoly era Carterfone rules to today's vibrant market is unmistakably the wrong number."

But some experts believe that with or without regulation, the days of carriers controlling the customer experience on mobile phones are slowly coming to an end. Already consumers with smart phones running Windows Mobile can download the Skype client, even if the operator forbids it.

"At the end of the day, bits are bits in the internet," said Dave Passmore, a research director at the Burton Group. "So Verizon or anyone else who wants to tell someone they can't download a VoIP client onto their phone from the internet is going to have a very hard time enforcing it."

Talkback

I am a wireless customer, as many Americans are, but I am growing tired of these companies that lock you into their control with contracts and over priced plans. Companies like Skype, Vonage, MetroPCS are good for the consumers. With MetroPCS, there is no contract. If you want to quit using them, no problem... Come back when or if you want to... With Vonage, I can be at home or I can be on the road at a local wifi hotspot and I can make nationwide calls through my VOIP account. I am not a Skype customer but I have used them in the past for communications with my over seas associates.
The bottom line here is that we have all of this tehnology and it needs to be integrated and made available as choices for all consumers.
The wireless industry is fighting innovation that does not come out of thier shops. Anyone on the outside is out of thier control and therefore they won't support it.

As far as I am concerned, I should be able to purchase a UNIVERSAL device that can work on any cellular company's platform and said device would be open ended so that new technolgies can be applied. But this is an entirely different topic.

One other point... I am not biased as a consumer wanting something for nothing. I will pay for my services even though I know I have other means.

charles.h.white 23 February, 2007 22:23
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VoIP is the next step in the world of wireless, so many people miss understand what its all bout and why its the next step.

You would need to understand what is VoIP and why High Speed Networks will use it, Voice channels will no longer be needed and be replaced my VoIP.

First we must understand that as it is right now CDMA EV-DO rev (O) and now rev (a) its data or voice, now because data is in packets you can sometimes get a call but thats not always, now if you used VoIP and some one called you it would be easy to get that call. See its both data and there is not need to use voice, we do not use VoIP with slower networks like GSM because its to slow for the data packet need to offer VoIP. But with EV-DO its just right, and if you want an easy transfer from Network (a) to Wi-Fi (b) you need VoIP for softhand offs. Why is this so? Because its based all on VoIP, other wise you can not get easy hand offs from Voice channels to VoIP data.

So maybe we should think about moving into the year 2010 plus and not about staying still in the 1960's.

Just something to think about.


Mark Pendergraft
Owner of MAP2010.com

MAP2010 24 February, 2007 08:33
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[quote="MAP2010"]VoIP is the next step in the world of wireless, so many people miss understand what its all bout and why its the next step.

You would need to understand what is VoIP and why High Speed Networks will use it, Voice channels will no longer be needed and be replaced my VoIP.

First we must understand that as it is right now CDMA EV-DO rev (O) and now rev (a) its data or voice, now because data is in packets you can sometimes get a call but thats not always, now if you used VoIP and some one called you it would be easy to get that call. See its both data and there is not need to use voice, we do not use VoIP with slower networks like GSM because its to slow for the data packet need to offer VoIP. But with EV-DO its just right, and if you want an easy transfer from Network (a) to Wi-Fi (b) you need VoIP for softhand offs. Why is this so? Because its based all on VoIP, other wise you can not get easy hand offs from Voice channels to VoIP data.

So maybe we should think about moving into the year 2010 plus and not about staying still in the 1960's.

Just something to think about.


Mark Pendergraft
Owner of MAP2010.com[/quote]

Ok I have a question? So WCDMA/ UMT offer voice and data simultaneously. I agree with that. Now when we transmit data and voice wirelessly together ((HSDPA) like video calls I suppose, or mobile internet), we are bound to sacrifice some speed. I am ok with that too. So what problems can we face with HSDPA. I hope it’s not a perfect solution. HSDPA and EV-DO do similar tasks and their download speed is almost similar. The only difference is the transmission of voice and data together wirelessly. So, just because of that HSDPA becomes better? There must be some kind of really bad news for HSDPA. Is there any?

* HSDPA is software which pushes speed higher. Does HSDPA help to combine voice and data?

MajidAwan 18 April, 2007 03:13
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Well GSM can do both Data and Voice at the same time, but its not the same as VoIP because when you use VoIP you can switch from CDMA to GSM to WiFi to WiMax then to CDMA without losing that call.

Why? Because its all data. Skype would be great for the U.S market, it would be great for the world market. T-Mobile has been working on away to have a GSM/WiFi Service so you can get better service at home.

HSDPA is not a bad network, nor is it slow at (2.1 Mbps) but its not where CDMA is at (3.1 Mbps) bit it would be sweet to have a GSM/WCDMA/HSDPA/EVDO handset with VoIP, but the Carriers are to blind and can't see where the market is going. Video Phone are whats next we just need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Rev (b) will be even faster.

MAP2010 15 July, 2007 07:13
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