Opera: Microsoft's browser move not enough

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The chief complainant in the European browser case against Microsoft says the move to strip Internet Explorer out of Windows 7 in Europe is an insufficient step that will not lead to better competition in the browser market.

In an interview, Opera chief technology officer Håkon Wium Lie said that with regulators threatening action, Microsoft was under pressure to do something, but said that its choice was not what Opera was looking for. Lie told ZDNet UK's sister site, CNET News.com, that Opera wants people to have access to more browsers, not fewer.

"I don't believe this is going to restore competition in the marketplace," he said.

Instead, Lie favours a proposal that the European regulators have been considering that would require users to be given a choice to download one or more browsers the first time they access the internet.

"We would like to give users a genuine choice," Lie said. The remedy that the European Commission has been discussing, a so-called 'must-carry' remedy, would be a better solution, he said.

Microsoft acknowledged in a blog posting that regulators could still force that to happen.

"Our decision to only offer IE separately from Windows 7 in Europe cannot, of course, preclude the possibility of alternative approaches emerging through Commission processes," deputy general counsel Dave Heiner said in the blog.

But Heiner said Microsoft believes its move puts it in compliance with European law.

"We believe that this new approach, while not our first choice, is the best path forward given the ongoing legal case in Europe," he wrote. "It will address the 'bundling' claim while providing European consumers with access to the full range of Windows 7 benefits that will be available in the rest of the world."

For his part, Lie said it is a solution that will not fundamentally change anything, as was the case when the company issued a version of Windows in Europe with the Media Player removed.

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"They are under pressure to do something and they come up with this thing, which is quite obviously not going to work," he said. "This is very similar to what the remedy was in the Media Player case. It was widely recognised that that was an insufficient remedy. It was too little too late."

By removing the browser, Microsoft won't make life any easier for Opera, which still needs to find a way to get its browser on to computers. It could theoretically now strike a deal with PC makers to get Opera included in place of Internet Explorer, but of Microsoft's rivals, only Google seems likely to have that kind of money. Lie said his company definitely does not.

"Certainly, we are in no financial situation to pay lots of money to have Opera distributed on new PCs," he said.

The situation is even more precarious for those upgrading existing machines to Windows 7. In that case they get a PC with no browser at all. Microsoft will make lots of CDs that will give users IE8 if they want, but Opera and rivals have no easy way to get on those machines, short of following Microsoft's approach.

Lie also objected to the fact Microsoft is making the move only in Europe.

"It's Europe only," he said. "We're looking for more than that. We want the whole world to have better access to better browsers."

Talkback

Hi,

This isn't the same as the Media-Player-minus version of Windows. In that case M$ offered a version with and a version without Media Player in the EU; a version I never saw on the shelves of my local stores... who'd pay the same for less software?

In this case M$ have said that all versions of Win7 will be without IE.

From what I have read about M$ release; M$ have said that they will provide an application which will allow the user to select from one of multiple browsers at the time of the user installing/configuring or first needing a browser. It is likely that most users will still pick IE. Afterall it will be the name that they will most recognise.

However for us in the know, and curious people; other browsers may well get installed.

It's certainly a step in the right direction. The only problem is that more and more applications are getting integrated tighter and tigher...

How many applications use the IE engines within their code? TONNES. what will happen with all of them? Will a standard "Browser API" become available so that any application that needs a browser plugin just works in the future?

As an example; combiled help files; they all use IE as the rendering engine and they are in most windows applications...

Depending on how M$ do this (and I dont trust them) this could be a mess and we may all just end up installing IE anyway and then having a second browser installed if we so wish....

Potentially this could be great... potentially it could be just another way to continue the status-quo.

Richard

1000272134 15 June, 2009 19:00
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This is nonsense. If Opera was better than IE, people would use it. Look at the tremendous growth of Firefox: as it improves, more people use it. If IE gets better, people will go back to that. Opera should focus on making a better browser, not whingeing.

tonylinde 16 June, 2009 11:40
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You're kidding right... If opera has a better browser people would move to it?

If M$ had there way they'd change all the standards so only their browser would work on the web... oops. I forgot, they tried to do that already and now we have to have multiple versions of webpages, one for IE and one for everyone else.

God forbid a naive webmaster who builds a website with M$ tools; it wont look right in anyother browser but IE.

I agree Opera should stop moaning, but I think that there really should be transparency for browsers; they're just too damn important these days and IE is just plain insecure... although later versions are getting better.

Opera will not succeed against M$ not cause they haven't got a better browser - they probably do, I haven't looked at it for years but it is not hard to beat IE it is probably M$ weakest product. Opera hasn't go tthe marketing $$$s to beat M$. Firefox and Safari have a better chance... we need competition to keep M$ on their feet; afterall M$ let IE development die until Firefox came along.

My final point is people stickto what they know and people are reluctant to change, even if the change is for the better... People are also cautious about downloading software from the internet - they should be - but if you haven't heard of Firefox, how would you know it doesn't contain malware like other well known products did - KAZAA for example... Without putting the safe options in front of them they'll never know what is safe to pick

This seems to be, but isnt, a simple problem with a simple answer...

Rich

1000272134 16 June, 2009 19:06
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