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A California judge on Thursday dismissed a Web site's lawsuit against Google over its fall in the Google search index, but left the door open for the lawsuit to be amended and refiled.

KinderStart, a directory and search engine for information related to children, sued Google in March after it fell to a "zero" ranking in the Google index. The lawsuit claimed that by lowering KinderStart's site in its PageRank system, Google had engaged in "pervasive monopolistic practices" that led to the denial of the site's free-speech rights, prevention and destruction of competition, and predatory pricing — among nine counts in total.

As a result of the drop in ranking, traffic and monthly page views to KinderStart's Web site fell 70 percent or more and the company's revenue from advertisements through Google's AdSense syndication program fell by more than 80 percent, according to the lawsuit.

US District Judge Jeremy Fogel for the Northern District in San Jose dismissed all nine claims, saying that KinderStart's claims were insufficient or failed to allege facts or conduct to support that the claims or were too vague.

Fogel specifically dismissed some of the claims against Google "with leave to amend," meaning that KinderStart can modify and refile the complaint.

Google's senior litigation counsel, Michael Kwun, said in a statement: "We are pleased that Judge Fogel dismissed all of KinderStart's claims."

Meanwhile, KinderStart attorney Gregory Yu also claimed victory, noting that the judge left the door open by allowing KinderStart to refile the claims. He said he plans to file an amended complaint before the next court date, which is scheduled for 29 September.

Yu also said he was encouraged by the judge's discussion pertaining to the defamation claim, and he urged other Web site publishers to contact him at Glawinfo.com to join the lawsuit, which seeks class action status.

"The decision suggests that, if properly alleged, Google may be defaming a whole class of Web sites sacked with a '0' PageRank," he wrote in a statement. "If plaintiffs show Google manually tampered with even a single Web site's PageRank, Google's entire claim of 'objectivity' of search results and rankings could collapse."

Eric Goldman, an assistant professor of law at Marquette University Law School, said the ruling was favourable for Google, except for the discussion on defamation. "Frankly, there are very few novel or surprising aspects of this ruling. For example, the judge rejected the claim that Google was a state actor, but this ruling is entirely consistent with the dozen or so precedents involving private Internet companies," Goldman wrote on his blog. "The other rulings seemed very sensible and fairly predictable from the complaint. It's pretty clear that the judge thinks that some of KinderStart's claims have no chance even with repleading, but the judge apparently has decided to give KinderStart that chance rather than just shutting the door."

Fogel wrote that a PageRank score reflects Google's opinions, and suggested that a score generated by a computer algorithm is likely not defamatory. But if KinderStart can prove a case of "manual intervention" by Google, Fogel wrote, the outcome might be different.

Talkback

Ahhh so this company is complaining about google, editing google.com to display what google wants on googles web search using googles servers and processing power which runs googles own custom made code and IP?

This makes so much sense, i dont know why i am not suing google as well for not giving me half their money as they are restricting me from competing against them by not financing my own start up. I hate google now for not giving me their money.

To the company doing the suing. Shut up and go bankrupt already. It is googles website with googles code on googles servers maintained by google staff. There is not ONE reason why anyone has any right to have anything at all on any of googles servers. Nothing at all. If i was google id delete you by hand and say "dont like it? go cry in your spilt milk".

via Facebook 14 July, 2006 17:33
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Myles, your comments are fine if there was no manual intervention, but this simply illustrates the power that google has over traffic that goes to any website.
If their search algorithums were great i could understand it, but over the years i am getting less and less relevant results from them with no real understanding of why.
If they were more public with the algorithums they use, I would have greater trust in the results they return, and these kind of cases would be moot.

via Facebook 17 July, 2006 01:06
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