YouTube may face court over copyright complaints

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If Robert Tur has his way, YouTube will soon have its day of reckoning in court.

Tur, a helicopter pilot and journalist, accused the company in a recent lawsuit of encouraging people to steal copyright material. Tur's video of the 1992 Los Angeles riots appeared on YouTube and was viewed more than 1,000 times, according to the suit, filed in a Los Angeles federal court. YouTube said Tur's claims are "without merit".

For people who follow the growing business of video-sharing Web sites, the only real surprise about the suit is that it took so long for someone to drag YouTube or one of its ilk into court. More than 150 companies that host user-generated video on their sites have cropped up in the past year, and many of them don't pre-screen the material their users put up (though most, including YouTube, include a prohibition against copyright infringement in their user agreement). Too often, critics charge, the rights to those videos are owned by someone other than the poster.

"I love the YouTube service," said Steven Voltz, an amateur video-maker who says multiple copies of a video he created were posted on the site against his wishes. "But I think their process to remove copyright materials isn't easy, and that is very convenient for them."

There are laws that are supposed to cover this sort of thing. In fact, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act should define a company's obligations regarding copyrights, and YouTube says it goes out of its way to follow those rules. But legal experts wonder if the courts will ultimately have to decide how the DMCA and other laws apply to this new market.

That could be an unnerving possibility to the fledgling video-sharing sites. Many are just starting to figure out their business models, and getting dragged into expensive legal tussles or being forced to implement onerous copyright-protection procedures could snuff out a new kind of business just as it's starting to get traction.

"We expected a lawsuit to come sometime," said Tom McInerney, chief executive of Guba, a video-sharing site based in San Francisco. "Our feeling is that companies are going to have to make more of an effort to go above and beyond the (law) to ensure copyright material doesn't end up on their Web sites. But what we don't want is for the liability to the Web sites to be so high that it closes down public forums."

It's not surprising to some legal experts that YouTube is at the centre of the fight. In February, NBC requested the site remove a skit from the television show Saturday Night Live.

Critics have pointed to this as an example of how YouTube has profited from copyright infringement. A relatively obscure site until that point, it received national attention from the hubbub with NBC. YouTube, however, which quickly took the clip down after NBC protested, points to its handling of the incident and others like it as an example of how the company is going to great pains to make sure copyrights are respected.

"We have been told by many dozens of content owners that we are by far the most co-operative and responsive of the video-sharing sites," said Zahavah Levine, YouTube's general counsel.

So who's right? For now, YouTube is standing on solid legal ground, according to several legal experts who said that YouTube is protected — under the same federal law that covers other online services such as Craigslist, eBay and Yahoo's GeoCities — from liability for copyright violations its customers may commit.

But intellectual-property attorneys also see areas where YouTube risks butting into the DMCA. For example, the law specifically prohibits a Web site from profiting from copyright material. Recently, ads have begun appearing on YouTube alongside individual video clips.

"They hadn't done this before," said John Stickevers, an intellectual-property attorney at the law firm Bromberg & Sunstein in Boston. "The law states that you can't receive profits directly attributable to the infringing content. I think this would make it much harder for them to make an assertion that they weren't profiting."

Levine discounts this concern because "to date, YouTube has never sold an ad against an individual video".

But there's a larger question of keeping on good terms with the customers. YouTube and competitors risk alienating the people who produce some of the best homemade videos, the life blood of video-sharing sites, said Voltz.

Voltz is an attorney, co-creator of a well-known video clip called the The Diet Coke & Mentos Experiment, and a rather irked man who believes the unauthorised appearance of the Mentos clip on YouTube and other sites cost him money — $28,000, to be exact. The losses are equal to what Voltz and partner Fritz Grobe made by posting their clip at the video-sharing site Revver, which shares advertising revenue with clip makers.

The video of the two men creating a whacky fountain through the volatile mix of Mentos and a carbonated beverage was viewed 5 million times. The number would have been twice as high…

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25 Jul 06 03:26 Reply

I hope they do get shut down.. they reject perfectly clean and legit homemade videos now.. I tried to upload several animal videos, pet videos and they rejected them as "terms of use violation" they used to be so good suddenly they suck bigtime. now thye are letting the big boys advertise on there everything amature is looked at as infringment as somekind..

23 Aug 06 19:09 Reply

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