Police right to hand over seized hardware, says judge

Daily Newsletters

Sign up to ZDNet UK's daily newsletter.

Topics

Fact, Scopelight

NEWS

Solicitors are seeking to go to the Supreme Court, after an appeal court ruling that the police were acting within the law when they handed hardware and financial records to a private copyright-enforcement company.

A judge found that Northumbria police were right to hand the equipment to The Federation Against Copyright Theft, a private industry coalition, even after the Crown Prosecution Service had declined to pursue a public prosecution, legal site Out-Law reported on Monday.

Following a raid by police and the Federation Against Copyright Theft (Fact) on Scopelight, which operates the SurfTheChannel.com video site, in 2008, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) declined to prosecute the company.

However, Fact wrote to the police requesting the seized articles, saying it was considering a private prosecution. The police then sent equipment including servers, financial records and mobile phones to Fact late in 2008. Fact still holds the equipment, and was recently granted permission by a court to forensically test the hardware.

In the meantime, the owners of the property, Anton and Kelly-Anne Vickerman, have been seeking the return of their servers and financial records, plus damages. On 22 January, 2009, Scopelight and the Vickermans launched their case against Fact and Northumbria police.

In April a court found that Fact should return the property to its owners. However, Fact and the police appealed the decision.

The Court of Appeals handed down its judgement two weeks ago, saying the police were right in law to hand the property to Fast.

"I accept and am bound by the ratio of the case that the powers to seize and retain cannot be used to make information available to private individuals for their private purposes," said Lord Justice Leveson in his judgement. "What the case does not address, however, is the use of information by private individuals (placing every private prosecutor into that category for these purposes) for public purposes, not to recover damages, but in order that the state might determine whether a criminal offence had been committed."

Leveson added that given the burden on public prosecutors, the police should be able to hand evidence to private companies if the case is in the public interest.

"If it is in the public interest that other bodies should be able to investigate and prosecute because of the strain that the CPS would otherwise face, it is equally difficult to see why such a prosecutor should not be able to use material seized by the police whether while investigating the offence to which the material is relevant or some other offence," said Leveson.

Leveson added that there were safeguards in law to guard against "vexatious claims", which are claims designed to obstruct a person or organisation.

The Vickermans' solicitor, Nick Brett of Lewis Nedas, told ZDNet UK on Tuesday that the Vickermans would petition the Supreme Court to appeal by December.

Talkback

Every time I think this country can't get into a worse mess, some idiot goes and proves me wrong :(

Tezzer 17 November, 2009 19:12
Reply

If the CPS cannot cope with cases such as these then its time for an overhaul to that failing public service.

CA 17 November, 2009 23:51
Reply

While I fully understand the reasoning of Lord Justice Leveson, I consider his judgement to be a distortion. If there is sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution then it is the duty of the CPS, regardless of how busy they may be, to pursue that prosecution.
It is my consideration that he should, after examining the evidence available, have either dismissed the application or castigated the CPS for failing in their duty and ordered them to proceed.

1000215420 18 November, 2009 12:51
Reply

Get used to this kind of justice, because it is going on all over the globe. We are slowly becoming a government controlled society where the citizen's only rights are those granted by our rulers. It is happening here in the colonies at a rapid pace. One day freedom will be a memory.

ator1940 18 November, 2009 14:59
Reply

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in.

You can also log in with Facebook. Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

  • Login

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Community FAQ

Get ZDNet UK's daily newsletter

Enter your email address to sign up

ZDNet UK Live

bordero

ike fuelband is great for every healthminded person ! to work out! theres this website called textme4free.com that you can use to text anywhere in...

3 hours ago by bordero on Nike's FuelBand wristband gamifies exercise
BrownieBoy

> I'm told it's somewhat annoying when people have their Macs stolen > and Apple stores treat the thief as the owner, but there you go. Ouch,...

5 hours ago by BrownieBoy on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
Moley

@kevinmchapman. OK, I acknowledge that 'most' was a gratuitous throwaway comment as an afterthought and too presumptuous. As to proof, as you...

10 hours ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Jack Schofield

@BrownieBoy > Works really well for thieves.... >> Nice attempt to deflect the argument by tossing in a point that's totally >> irrelevant, even...

11 hours ago by Jack Schofield on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
raskolnikof

fantastic that the so called piracy bills have been withdrawn. however, these anti-democracy supporters are still in the shadows so lets be alert...

11 hours ago by raskolnikof on SOPA, Protect IP support wavers in face of online protest
Tony Douglas

Please God no; teach them anything you like - thinking rationally, the uses and misuses of data, what data is and what it's not - but leave the...

14 hours ago by Tony Douglas via Facebook on Kids are the future. Teach ’em to code.
BrownieBoy

@Jack, > Works really well for thieves.... Nice attempt to deflect the argument by tossing in a point that's totally irrelevant, even it were...

1 day ago by BrownieBoy on AMD Ultrathins to challenge Intel Ultrabooks
bootlegger

Make that 13 people now - I got refused today at Manchester airport. I thought I was up to date on this legislation - I knew of the EU ruling from...

1 day ago by bootlegger on UK airport body scans will not be opt out
tinycg

Don't forget to check out apps like GoodReader or SlideShark either, they're indispensible for people on the go in presentation situations. Best...

1 day ago by tinycg on Four top iPad apps for people on the move
TerryRK

Well it seems there is something a number of us agree on. Why is the Ubuntu Unity launcher so ugly? I thought perhaps it was something to do with...

2 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Freebies202

Duplicate comments are not made intentionally. Its very good to know that now you are keeping check on this problem because sometimes a commenter...

2 days ago by Freebies202 on Microsoft fixes blog comments, speeds up blogs with open source
kevinmchapman

"the very significant number of users" and "many (most) of us" - you have no evidence for these statements. It is a fact that most users are saying...

2 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Marg Menzies Harrison

Another grammar faux pas is the improper use of "you". When sitting down down in a restaurant, for example, I get cringe when the waitress...

2 days ago by Marg Menzies Harrison via Facebook on 10 flagrant grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
zdnetukuser

And NOW, folks, for Canonical's next trick... Kubuntu is late. Here's a pencil. Draw your own conclusions. cf.:...

2 days ago by zdnetukuser on Linux Minterface
Moley

@kevinmchapman. The discussion here reflects the very significant number of users who really do like the traditional menu system and who wish to...

2 days ago by Moley on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

Er, no... It is an efficient means of finding the application/file/setting you need in one place. The icons are a simply a fallback for when you...

3 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

Isn't the provision of a text based search an admission by the developers that the mass of icons approach does not work? I don't need to use a...

3 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
kevinmchapman

"Unity and GNOME 3 both abandon the old text-based cascading menus in favour of a graphical icon-driven system." Point truly missed. Both use a...

3 days ago by kevinmchapman on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
TerryRK

whs001 - Thank you, I'm glad you liked the article. I absolutely agree with you on your first point. I should perhaps have made it clearer that...

3 days ago by TerryRK on A tale of two distros: Ubuntu and Linux Mint
Dennis Nilsson

If we allow corporate interest to dictate the way our government circumvents due process against foreign entities then we should accept the same...

3 days ago by Dennis Nilsson via Facebook on ACTA stumbles in Germany