Backing up Cisco's security

Cisco drew the ire of the hacking community last summer when it decided to sue a security researcher.

The lawsuit was retaliation for disclosing research into the security of software that runs Cisco routers and switches. The networking giant was already a target for cyberattacks, but that move probably put even more heat on its security team.

For example, shortly after Cisco sued, and settled, with the researcher, its Web site security was breached. The company alerted customers and advised them to change their passwords.

John Stewart is Cisco's chief security officer and heads up the company's IT security team, among other security-related groups. With his staff, Stewart secures a network used by about 40,000 people with more than 60,000 PCs and countless other network connected devices, including 50,000 VoIP phones.

On the day before the annual RSA Conference in San Jose, California, Stewart talked to ZDNet UK sister site CNET News.com about his responsibilities.

Q: There is a big bull's-eye on Cisco as an organisation. What do you do to defend yourself against being attacked by hackers? Is there a simple solution?
A: I don’t think there is a simple solution. Probably the best way to describe it is that we never stop trying to think like our attackers. The best way to think about a defence is to think about the offense. The means by which we approach it go from everything from technology to how we educate and train people toward being aware of the risks and ideally to get security as a piece of every network element and into every person's mind.

A lot of people tend to talk about security as the latest security patch or the latest vulnerability that's out there. Do you see security in that way?
No, those are a great deal about a known class of threats and usually there is a technology answer to your problem. We have a tendency to think about whole classes of problems. Patching is an availability problem just as much as it's a security problem. A virus is just as much a user awareness issue as it is a technology threat. In focusing on trying to handle classes of problems like that, we want to take people issues first, define it and then get a technology answer toward mitigating classes of problems.

What would you say are some of the key issues you face in terms of security at Cisco and in defending the Cisco network?
The types of threats that we all face now are motivated by true financial gain. Often times what we had was an annoyance, or a disruptive kind of threat, something that was not really trying to damage or steal, but we have moved away from that now. This is about mitigating theft and mitigating true damage.

What types of attacks do you see and do you see many?
We face distributed denial of service attacks against our Web site, sometimes right towards the end of our quarter. That's a level of business...

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