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A protest has taken place outside the Home Office against the extradition of Gary McKinnon to the US

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Gary's mother Janice McKinnon (pictured, right) told ZDNet.co.uk she was "very angry" that McKinnon was to be extradited.

"I feel angry and upset — America is running us," she said. "The [2003] Extradition Treaty is a joke. Gary has been threatened with being fried, but what do you expect from a country that runs a concentration camp like Guantanamo Bay? It's about time the UK government started to represent its citizens."

The 2003 Extradition Treaty between the UK and the US does not require the US to present any prima facie evidence to the UK authorities of any wrongdoing to extradite a UK citizen. This has led to criticisms from McKinnon's family that the treaty is not reciprocal.

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I wouldn't hold out much hope that the Asperger's syndrome diagnosis is going to hold much sway in the US given that according to Amnesty International one in ten of the USA's 1,000-plus executed prisoners in the last 30 years suffered from mental illness.

McKinnon obviously isn't facing execution but it doesn't bode well!

andrewdonoghue 3 September, 2008 18:47
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statement appears to be an exercise in Semantics and obfuscation.

What else might we expect these days?

Gary is just being thrown to the lions!

Moley 3 September, 2008 21:07
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I have no idea what the "cracker" did or did not do. $700,000 of damage is BS when a $150 1TB hard-drive is likely all the backup space necessary to backup what he allegedly managed to hack into. It doesn't mean anything to a grand jury unless its got at least 5 zeros behind it. Look at all the drug busts with the inflated (or should I say puffed-up?) street values for confiscated drugs by the DEA.

Some US Federal attorney general is looking for a political appointment or promotion perhaps.

Asperger's Syndrome is hardly debilitating. It is the lightest of touches of autism. My nephew has Asperger's. He can function, he knows right from wrong. He gets up in the morning, makes his own breakfast and sits around his apartment and plays video games all day. He can function in society, he chooses not to. He could care less as long as people leave him alone. He doesn't join the rest of the family at holiday events. As a mental illness its annoying for everybody else around him. As far as he's concerned, he's fine and doesn't want to be "cured". It gets him out of having to accept any responsibility for his own mental state, his behavior or taking care of himself. He's not anti-social, he's asocial. I expect that some day he'll find himself in jail somewhere because he'll do something stupid to the wrong person.

Asperger's is almost impossible to diagnose and has only in the last few years become a diagnosable condition even by mental health professionals. It's also practically impossible to successfully treat because they don't know exactly what causes it. The patient usually doesn't feel like he or she need to be cured so usually isn't motivated to keep up with the treatment regimen.

If convicted, the one thing McKinnon will likely receive is as much mental health care as can be spent on him since he'll be a US Federal prisoner. They'll not likely let him use a computer. He'll probably become a model prisoner and may even like it in jail. US Federal prisoners do not get time reduced for good behavior or early parole, so he'll do the entire sentence. If he truly has Asperger's and gets 70 years, it may be the best thing for him. He will have a completely structured environment that is designed to minimize conflict and chaos.

If they no-bill him or decide to treat him as a mentally ill person, he'll might even get sent home and the National Health can deal with him. Then every Federal case that will come up from now on, a large number of defendants will attempt to use Asperger's as defensible grounds for acquittal and try to get off, especially if its more of the same caseload, damn web crackers.

So am I happy they are trying to extradite him? NO. Its my tax money that will be spent convicting and then keeping him locked up for a BS crime charge. I wonder if the judge will be IT trained enough to be able to read a monitor log or server access records? The people that should be convicted and jailed are the idiots that didn't secure their systems tight enough to keep him out in the first place. At the very least they should be sued for IT malpractice.

Xwindowsjunkie 5 September, 2008 04:48
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I have no sympathy at all for him, funny how all of a sudden he has got Aspergers, didn't he have it before this ?
He knew what he had done was wrong, he took the risks and he got caught out, even if he did confess to it. Stand up like a man and go and fight your case in the US, the only reason he wants the case heard here is because he knows he will get a lighter sentence. My vote is with the appeal court, go and face the music and stop making excuses..

keithmv 5 September, 2008 08:52
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