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Other technical challenges
Running thousands of cheap servers with relatively high failure rates is not an easy job. Standard tools don't work at this scale, so Google has had to develop them in-house. Some of the other challenges the company continues to face include:

Debugging: "You see things on the real site you never saw in testing because some special set of circumstances that create a bug," said Hölzle. "This can create non-trivial but fun problems to work on."

Data errors: A regular IDE hard disk will have an error rate in the order of 10-15 -- that is one millionth of one billionth of the data written to it may get corrupted and the hard-disk's own error checking will not pick it up. "But when you have a petabyte of data you need to start worrying about these failures," said Hölzle. "You must expect that you will have undetected bit errors on your disk several times a month, even with hardware checking built-in, so GFS does have an extra level of checksumming. Again this is something we didn’t expect, but things happen."

Spelling: Google wrote its own spell checker, and maintains that nobody know as many spelling errors as it does. The amount of computing power available at the company means it can afford to begin teaching the system which words are related - for instance "Imperial", "College" and "London". It's a job that many CPU years, and which would not have been possible without these thousands of machines. "When you have tons of data and tons of computation you can make things work that don’t work on smaller systems," said Hölzle. One goal of the company now is to develop a better conceptual understanding of text, to get from the text string to a concept.

Power density: "There is an interesting problem when you use PCs," said Hölzle. "If you go to a commercial data centre and look at what they can support, you'll see a typical design allowing for 50W to 100W per square foot. At 200W per square foot you notice the sales person still wants to sell it but their international tech guy starts sweating. At 300W per square foot they cry out in pain."

Eighty mid-range PCs in a rack, of which you will find many dozens in a Google data centre, produce over 500W per square foot. "So we're not going to blade technology," said Hölzle. "We're already too dense. Finally Intel has realised this is a problem and is now focusing more on power efficiency, but it took some time to get the message across."

Quality of search results: One big area of complaints for Google is connected to the growing prominence of commercial search results -- in particular price comparison engines and e-commerce sites. Hölzle is quick to defend Google's performance "on every metric", but admits there is a problem with the Web getting, as he puts it, "more commercial". Even three years ago, he said, the Web had much more of a grass roots feeling to it. "We have thought of having a button saying 'give me less commercial results'," but the company has shied away from implementing this yet.

Talkback

Hello
One thing that ticks me off about google is that it desplays multiple results on a search query from the same web site.
How hard can it be to limit the exposer to one url per query?
Is it logical to have a website show up hundreds of times on a search query?
Try searching for the word "algarve" (region in Portugal).
I think it is googles mission to deliver me to a website where I can find the content I am looking for, and not to worry about holding me up to reach the cookie jar and sink it down my mouth.
Show me where the supermarket is, I will find the shelf!
Thank you.
Keep clicking...

Hilton Santos
www.polorentacar.com
hilton@polorentacar.com

via Facebook 7 December, 2004 11:14
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Dude... don't know what you're talking about. Tried your search and got 10 results for 10 different websites listed. Google DOES eliminate results that are alike.

via Facebook 7 December, 2004 16:24
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Hi Carlos
Thank you for your feedback.
Try google.co.uk
Search for "algarve car hire"
You will notice as I have (saved the results in the case you would like me to send them to you)
that the same website:
www.portugal-linha.pt
comes in at 2nd and 3rd position, if you continue down the list you will find it time and time again.
Are the results relevant?
Well... I guess one of the results is, all others are repeats, that point to the same web page...
hilton@polorentacar.com

via Facebook 11 December, 2004 14:57
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Open letter to Google.

Hello my dear Googlers

My comment has nothing to do with google suggest, I find it very useful.
Now what really squeezes the sh.. out of me is ONE THING and this is it:

Why the hell do you allow a website to show up multiple times on one search query?

Why GOOGLE? Why?

It seams so simple to deal with, and trust me when I say, that I AM NOT A GENIUS!

Is there not a way of eliminating, the multiple exposer of a given website by means of it´s URL?

If you go ahead and search for "algarve car" you will come up with this:


www.portugal-cars.com/ algarve-car-hire/Aljezur-Car-Hire.html
www.portugal-cars.com/algarve-car-hire/ car-rental-in-faro-portugal.html
www.portugal-cars.com/ algarve-car-hire/car-hirein-portugal.html
www.portugal-cars.com/ algarve-car-hire/Quarteira-Car-Hire.html
www.portugal-cars.com/algarve-car-hire/aljezur.html
www.portugal-cars.com/ algarve-car-hire/autoverhuur-algarve.html

Etc.........................

Now please excuse me if I sound dramatic, but, HOW HARD can it be to eliminate the following results after the first one has been shown?

1 URL per search! That in my opinion would reduce your 8 BILLION pages to what?

Is this in your interest?
Would you be hurting OTHER interests?

Well bottom line is....

It is not my business...

Keep providing a great service, the new tool is great, and all I ask is...

Let me know if someone actually reads this.

Thank You

Hilton Santos


P.S.

1-I can tell that every URL "is" different, from the others, my idea is for you to maybe find a way to process the first 20 or 30 characters of a url up to the end of .com .net .org .whatever and then ban all results, except the FIRST!



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via Facebook 13 December, 2004 18:04
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QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS POST

"Now please excuse me if I sound dramatic, but, HOW HARD can it be to eliminate the following results after the first one has been shown?"

typical question from someone who has no idea what they are asking for.

HOW HARD can it be?
have you tried doing this? Have you tried to put up thousands of computers and make a "slight" adjustment on a program running on the whole network?
If you have not tried doing it, dont pretend to understand how it works. You have no idea what you are asking for. You can probably send some money to Google so they can have the resources to process your request... Its not like you actually paid Google to do the search for you right? You want a personalized search engine? Go make one yourself. It's relatively easy to do... well, that is, if you have the brain for it.

via Facebook 10 February, 2005 21:27
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Very dear Frustrated Research and Development specialist

I am sorry you feel this way...
Why don´t you come over to the Algarve Portugal region and relax...

Well on to your comment:

" HOW HARD can it be?
have you tried doing this? Have you tried to put up thousands of computers and make a "slight" adjustment on a program running on the whole network? "

I have never tryed doing this and once in a week I must kick the computer I use at the office in order for the printer to work...
The slight ajustment here is this, if your toe does not work use a hamer...

" If you have not tried doing it, dont pretend to understand how it works. You have no idea what you are asking for. You can probably send some money to Google so they can have the resources to process your request... Its not like you actually paid Google to do the search for you right? "

I have not tryed doing it, but I think they use voodo tecnology, along with chanting and chicken heads... I may be wrong...

Now when you mention money, we actualy pay Google as we have AdWord accounts...
We would maybe, pay less, if the results were better... Stupid Hilton to worry about the quality of Google results...

You want a personalized search engine? Go make one yourself. It's relatively easy to do... well, that is, if you have the brain for it.

Now if I would want a personalized search engine, I would not need to make one myself!
Google has AdSense for search! yeppi!
And guess what? The search results may come up in orange! wow!
Try this website:
http://algarve-portugal.algarveportugal.info
BETA
The final version will be at:
http://www.algarve-portugal.org.uk

Now to the Brain issue...
Pal, I am sure you must be a million times smarter then I, so why the hell did you read my comment, and why did you answer to it?
If I answered to every crappy comment I found on the net I would have to quit my job...

Ohhh well...
Good luck on solving the worlds problems, I am one who thinks that if People talk about the problems they encounter, they will be solved sooner or later..
Maybe you can solve this one for Goo?

I guarantee that at least they will send you a Thank You E-Mail! yeppi!

I have a couple...

Yours Truly
Hilton Santos
http://hilton-santos.blogspot.com

via Facebook 12 February, 2005 14:34
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Oh Wilton, Alem de parvo es muito burro!!!!
Epa why Google?? mesmo de puto.

j

via Facebook 19 March, 2005 19:35
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And he calls himself development specialist ...
:-)
Some guys are so stupid !!!

via Facebook 19 April, 2005 17:48
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Sou puto mas tenho colh... para assinar o que escrevo...

via Facebook 4 May, 2005 18:03
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Dear Hilton,

First of all, please forgive me for the bad english.
Good afternoon. I don't think very ethical from your part to criticize other's websites listed on google. If you want to criticize google then e-mail them with general matters. Never with particular cases. I think that might not be the best way to gain customers or positions on google. I know several websites, experts in many matters that only show up on page 14 on google and on yahoo thay're on page 1. Can you imagine. I hope you try to compete with other companies in defferent ways then criticizing their marketing on the internet. Criticize Google if you want, but never pointing your finger to a particular website.

via Facebook 30 August, 2005 15:54
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I do not have time for people who do not assume there identity....
You are either born with balls or they grow on you...

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