Outsourced jobs 'will return'

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The loss of US jobs due to a shift of information technology work overseas maybe be painful for American workers now, but the discomfort is only temporary, according to a panel of information technology executives gathered on Tuesday.

Executives from Borland Software, BearingPoint and Infosys, and an official from the US Department of Commerce expressed confidence that US companies will eventually reinvest money saved from farming out IT tasks to foreign workers, and expand operations at home. That, in turn, will lead to American job growth down the road, the panelists agreed.

"We need to keep an eye on long-term growth and not take a short-term protectionist approach," said Chris Israel, deputy assistant secretary for technology policy at the Commerce Department, explaining why the Bush administration opposes tariffs and other policies that would discourage the outsourcing trend.

And because the aging baby boomer generation is nearing retirement, the United States may be headed for another work force shortage, said William Miller, professor emeritus at Stanford University and chairman of Borland Software. In the meantime, displaced IT workers should get training and be willing to relocate to find new jobs, he said.

"People have to be prepared to move," Miller said. "That will be one of the requirements of the work force in the future; people must be willing to move where the jobs are."

While the panellists defended the merits of offshore outsourcing, they acknowledged some troubling problems. One is whether foreign companies and workers can be trusted with intellectual property and other sensitive information handed over to them by US clients. Companies in India generally operate under strict confidentiality rules, said Harris Miller, president of the Information Technology Association of America, the trade group that organised Tuesday's panel. But in China, where intellectual property disputes have been more common, it's a bigger concern, he said.

Another question is whether American workers will keep pace in the global market for IT skills, especially at their relatively premium wages. Stanford's Miller noted that technology and science graduate programs at the country's most prestigious universities are increasingly populated by foreign-born students.

Others acknowledged that, taken too far, the push to move work offshore could backfire by bumping up unemployment and thereby sapping domestic demand. "There's no simple answer," to such quandaries, ITAA's Miller said.

In addition, the call for investing in the education of America's work force and the need for job training and other welfare programs for displaced workers come as federal, state and local governments face huge budget deficits and are forced to trim such programs. "I think it makes it more difficult," Stanford's Miller said. "That does hurt us."

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Oh, and the check's in the mail, right???

who funded this little study, "republican tax dodgers for a greater america". LOL.

via Facebook 22 October, 2003 19:27
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"...who funded this little study?"

They outsourced it to India.

via Facebook 23 October, 2003 01:38
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I don't think anyone will hear a peep about the outsourcing disaster and joblessness in the US until they start laying off high priced CEOs and upper management for foreign ones, then, and only then will you hear the thunderous outrage. When those buggers start hitting the pavement, look out!!
keep in mind, when there's nobody left to manage, what do you do with the managers? If you think IT workers make good pay, look at management, there's a genuine stack of loot. If they keep outsourcing, an MBA is no better than a BS. They'll stand in the same line in the unemployment office.

via Facebook 19 December, 2003 01:35
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Does anyone have a list of all the American companies that have outsourced jobs? Please send my link if posted somewhere.

via Facebook 12 January, 2004 03:53
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Who's the "JACKASS" that came up with this idea that outsourcing these jobs is a good thing. The domestic demand that's to feed these corporations is made up of the people who they are laying off. Economics rule #1: YOU CAN'T SELL TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MONEY!

As to training people for other jobs: If the people with training and experience for these other high tech jobs can't find work, why do we need more of a supply of these people?

Quit treating us like idiots. At least have the guts to tell the people that this is just a crass attempt by Corporate America to increase profits at the expense of their fellow citizens. Personally, I hope the Chinese and Indians steal everything they can get from these carpet-baggers. Of course the high tech missles and other WMD derived from this technology transfer and sold to the terrorists by China will end up terrorizing all of us. This economic policy is a disaster waiting to happen.

via Facebook 27 January, 2004 08:23
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I'm by no means 'Anit American', however, in this particular subject, I have no sympathies.

American products and services have put millions of businesses and ten times more people out of work driving the same amount of families to starvation.

Now that someone else has come up with an answer to high costs, its time to whimper? I don't think so.

For one thing, I hate people who take the US for granted. I mean, when manufacturing jobs left the US in the eighties, the US fought back with ingenuity in computer applications and bio technology.

The US economy is the strongest in the world because of one and only one reason. Its the fairest. The moment you take that away is the moment that the countries that these jobs are outsourced to will be the happiest.

In less than ten years, American companies will be totally devastated by the lower prices that countries in India will be able to offer.

I'm going to wait it out. I have faith in the economy. Frankly speaking, I'm glad that the outsourcing thing has come out. I think its about time that people realize that their cheap DVD players have its own costs.

via Facebook 23 February, 2004 10:39
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I'm by no means 'Anit American', however, in this particular subject, I have no sympathies.

American products and services have put millions of businesses and ten times more people out of work driving the same amount of families to starvation.

Now that someone else has come up with an answer to high costs, its time to whimper? I don't think so.

For one thing, I hate people who take the US for granted. I mean, when manufacturing jobs left the US in the eighties, the US fought back with ingenuity in computer applications and bio technology.

The US economy is the strongest in the world because of one and only one reason. Its the fairest. The moment you take that away is the moment that the countries that these jobs are outsourced to will be the happiest.

In less than ten years, American companies will be totally devastated by the lower prices that countries in India will be able to offer.

I'm going to wait it out. I have faith in the economy. Frankly speaking, I'm glad that the outsourcing thing has come out. I think its about time that people realize that their cheap DVD players have its own costs.

via Facebook 23 February, 2004 10:39
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Yeah, the tech jobs will return, after the dollar crashes relative to asian currencies and the dirt cheap indians and chinese get a LOT more expensive.

via Facebook 4 December, 2004 02:57
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