Health committee chair backs database plans

Daily Newsletters

Sign up to ZDNet UK's daily newsletter.

NEWS

The chair of the Commons Health Select Committee has criticised the doctors campaigning against the development of the NHS electronic patient record system.

Kevin Barron told a Westminster Hall debate on the subject he thought it sad that some health professionals are actively campaigning against the record being introduced.

"On one website that I looked at this week, a practice is getting people to opt out, saying that the records will be sold to pharmaceutical and insurance companies, and that the government will profit from them," Barron said.

"That is palpable nonsense, but it is being propagated by medical professionals in this country," he added, going on to describe a press release from the British Medical Association on the subject as "scaremongering", and saying that he worried about the BMA's leadership, given its opposition to a central database of summary patient records.

He referred to a briefing document from the BMA, which mentioned a lost disc of records on 160,000 patients from City and Hackney Primary Care Trust, but did not say that it was encrypted. Health minister Ben Bradshaw added: "The disc was found. Of course, that was not reported."

Read this

Feature
Feature: The top 10 IT disasters of all time

From faulty satellites nearly causing World War III to the Millennium Bug, poorly executed IT has had a lot to answer for over the years...

Read more +

Barron added: "I am not a clinician, but one could well argue that not having a central database could be a matter of life or death. If I am on holiday in Torquay and keel over in the road because of a long-term condition, it may not immediately be obvious what the problem is."

He said that other such systems, such as that run by the US Veterans' Association, had shown their worth elsewhere. "When there were the disastrous problems caused by the hurricane in New Orleans and all the local systems were shut down, the healthcare of the veterans who got out could continue because of that database. It worked well, and those people's needs were not lost," he said.

Although generally supportive of the government, Barron said the committee had recommended that only patients could open the sealed envelope within records, except when there is a legal requirement otherwise, and was keen to see action including prosecutions taken against health-service staff who leak patient data.

Talkback

[[[ Kevin Barron told a Westminster Hall debate on the subject he thought it sad that some health professionals are actively campaigning against the record being introduced. ]]]

I agree with Mr Barron, but probably not for the same reasons. I think it is sad that the Dept for Health have barged on with this scheme without proper consultation, on a politically inspired suicidal timetable and have resorted to secret reports and gagging orders to prevent people from knowing quite how badly it is going ...... and that therefore the more ethical of our GPs have decided to prevent their patients from being harmed.

Mr Barron seems to be sad that the GPs have not "Held the Line" and displayed loyalty to the government; deciding instead to side with their patients instead .. scandalous.

[[[ saying that the records will be sold to pharmaceutical and insurance companies, and that the government will profit from them [...] That is palpable nonsense, but it is being propagated by medical professionals in this country," ]]]

But the government's own sites say that the centralised records *will* be made available to pharmaceutical and insurance companies and the government *will* be paid for this access, don't they? Given that this is the case, what part of this is "palpable nonsense"?

[[[ If I am on holiday in Torquay and keel over in the road because of a long-term condition, it may not immediately be obvious what the problem is. ]]]

Wow, that's an old one, but then I guess that the MPs he is addressing aren't too well up on this subject. The simple rebuttal to this is "How is it done today?". If I had a long term condition that might cause me to keel over in the road, I would be wearing a dog tag with relevant details and the emergency contact for my GP. I would most *definitely* trust amy life to a dog tag round my neck over a government run database *every* time.

Oh and I love the hurricane argument. I would hope that my GP and every other responsible GP will have an encrypted off site backup of my data.

Should I rehash the arguments against this expensive, unnecessary, dangerous white elephant? Naah. The rest of us, apart from this chap, have heard them 1000 times.

Andrew Meredith 3 March, 2008 14:18
Reply

Post your comment

In order to post a comment you need to be registered and logged in.

You can also log in with Facebook. Log in or create your ZDNet UK account below

  • Login

Will not be displayed with your comment

By signing up for this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understood our Privacy Policy. Questions about membership? Find the answers in the Community FAQ

Get ZDNet UK's daily newsletter

Enter your email address to sign up

ZDNet UK Live

Paul Fezziwig

Keep the crap apps out?! How will they compete with Android and Apple's claim to fame of having so many life changing apps? I wonder if the media...

5 hours ago by Paul Fezziwig via Facebook on RIM: BlackBerry will keep 'garbage' apps out of store
Aigars Mahinovs

It has been shown time after time that if there is an author store that sells the songs at even 1$ per song and gives you a high-quality digital...

6 hours ago by Aigars Mahinovs via Facebook on Copyright isn't working, says European Commission
awbMaven

""As a result of Butyka's alleged conduct, researchers were unable to use the computers for more than two months while NASA removed the malicious...

8 hours ago by awbMaven on US indicts Romanian over NASA climate change hack
subhorup

It simultaneously worries me and uplifts me that a self-proclaimed group of internet activists name themselves after Indian mythical figures....

16 hours ago by subhorup on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
naviathan

It's actually far easier to work anonymously on the internet than you think. With tools like Tor bouncing your traffic around the world before...

20 hours ago by naviathan on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
Agnostic_OS

1000272134 and bluedalmatian with you both there but then I'm still in 10.04 land (and happy with it)

20 hours ago by Agnostic_OS on Ten factors that make Ubuntu 11.10 a hit
apexwm

Interesting article and definitely see your points on the products mentioned. One of the top products for our Help Desk (approximately 20% of all...

1 day ago by apexwm on Ten flawed products that derail productivity
Paul Hutchinson

Absolutely - this should obviously not be handled my isp - but handled by their hosting operator. What's been suggested here is that my isp police...

1 day ago by Paul Hutchinson via Facebook on MPs urge ISPs to take down terrorist material
Techs UK

Looks like a great phone. I don't notice any deficiencies in WP7. used IOS before, that's pretty good. I don't spend much time in Apps, all i need...

1 day ago by Techs UK on Nokia pins US 're-entry' hopes on Lumia 900
Larry Bloggy

Now with the help of these apps you are always synced with MS outlook while on the move. Just download apps like xobni or outlookreflex and get...

1 day ago by Larry Bloggy via Facebook on Outlook Social Connector beta 2 and the LinkedIn connector
mike40g123

Your details are wrong. The version currently being made is the one with 2 USB ports, 256MB RAM and a network port. This is the Model B. The...

1 day ago by mike40g123 on Raspberry Pi boards set to go on sale
Moley

The thing that has been puzzling me for quite a while is how Anonymous can remain anonymous whilst not only being active on the Internet but also...

2 days ago by Moley on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
Don Dilly

If what Semantec is saying is rue, that is even worse and shows a complete disregard for thier users. If what Anonymous claims is true and the...

2 days ago by Don Dilly via Facebook on Anonymous activists release PCAnywhere source code
MattChurchy

Didn't seem particularly biased to me either. Oh though you might have mentioned some other competitors with free search and email services...

2 days ago by MattChurchy on Time for an evil umpire: Google, Microsoft & privacy
Simon Bisson and Mary Branscombe

James - exactly as much as anyone paid you for your comment; I don't feel that I need to say that I'm independant and unbiased, but just for you...

2 days ago by Simon Bisson and Mary Branscombe on Time for an evil umpire: Google, Microsoft & privacy
Carl White

Once they realise symantec are willing to pay real money, they will simply keep extorting, unless of course symantec/authorities can use the...

2 days ago by Carl White via Facebook on Symantec offered hackers $50k in source code sting
Jonathan Hassell

You can find more information on BS 8878 by Jonathan Hassell its lead-author at http://www.hassellinclusion.com/bs8878/ The page includes a...

3 days ago by Jonathan Hassell on BSI publishes first British web accessibility standard
servermanagement

Thanks for this list. Now I know, what to include on my system to make it more functional.

3 days ago by servermanagement on Ten flawed products that derail productivity
1000092626

What if it's a 4 car household? The point is, more bandwidth = more things you can do simultaneously, like streaming HD video in one room of the...

3 days ago by 1000092626 on Virgin Media beats 100Mbps schedule, hikes prices
Gary Burton

No point whatsoever increasing broadband download speed. unless ever server on the net has access to massively up rated throughput. The worlds...

3 days ago by Gary Burton via Facebook on Virgin Media beats 100Mbps schedule, hikes prices