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Crashing out at Glastonbury Festival
Talkback I agree with anon from Cambridge -- for Crissakes, Oasis are 'headlining'.that's Oasis everybody, you know the really crap band. Glastonbury hasn't been worth going to since 1995, and let's face it festival culture was about the ideals of the late...
About: Crashing out at Glastonbury Festival
[April 2, 2004, 19:18]
ISO Credibility
Talkback Ecma and OASIS have no such requirements for interoperability. Think about why it is that both Ecma and OASIS sought to have their format proposals approved by ISO? What's wrong with Ecma and OASIS? What do ISO and the W3C have that Ecma and OASIS...
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[March 3, 2008, 18:13 by garyedwards]
Strange inconsistency Rob
Talkback You claim OASIS is better that ISO/IEC but in your article you have stated that Alex Brown was wrong to use the official OASIS Committee Recommendation of RelaxNG DTD compatiblity in his validation method because it was not an ISO standard.
About: OOXML expert: ODF standard is broken
[May 22, 2008, 11:35 by Albert]
Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
Talkback As "a.c.points out, the K-Office Suite (current release 1.4.1, and all future releases) supports the Oasis OpenDocument format. Adobe PDF formats and OASIS OpenDocument formats are free for anybody to use, without restriction.and in fact, multiple...
About: Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
[September 6, 2005, 19:07]
OOXML is fully open
Talkback Allthough Sun and IBM having had a clear majority of votes in the OASIS TC on ODF for 5 years is mayby less open than MS having only a single vote in Ecma and the IBM/Sun powerbase in OASIS was shown in their refusal to add elements that would...
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[February 27, 2008, 18:11 by Albert]
Cut to the chase
Talkback Ecma and OASIS are vendor consortia where the rules governing standards specification work favor vendor innovation over the open and transparent interoperability consumers, governments and FLOSS efforts demand.
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[March 3, 2008, 18:57 by garyedwards]
ODF 1.1 is indeed an international standard
Talkback All OASIS Standards (or for that matter Ecma Standards) are international standards by this definition. As it stands today, the title "OASIS Standard" is a far greater indication of quality than "ISO/IEC Standard".
About: OOXML expert: ODF standard is broken
[May 22, 2008, 11:36 by RCWeir]
A standard for every man, woman, and child
Talkback Moreover, it was developed at OASIS, an organization Microsoft is a sponsor of. At any time, Microsoft could have contributed to the OASIS ODF committee. "Paoli said that Microsoft has never been an aggressor in the standards world and did not...
About: Microsoft: IBM masterminded OOXML failure
[January 31, 2008, 1:01 by superm401]
Standardization by Corporation
Talkback Closing down the Ecma fast track and OASIS PAS channels will go along way towards limiting the undue influence corporate vendors now have on determining international standards. That they use this influence to limit interoperability at the expense...
About: Microsoft's OOXML limps through ISO meeting
[March 5, 2008, 22:56 by garyedwards]
Microsoft muscles in on OpenDocument group
Talkback If MS has truly made a 180-degree turn and decided to make positive contributions to OpenDocument, then the OASIS Technical Committee would be the place to do that instead of ISO's INCITS/V1. To make a positive impact, it would be a matter of...
About: Microsoft muscles in on OpenDocument group
[March 27, 2006, 9:58]
Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
Talkback Fact is that Microsoft had every opportunity to contribute to the OpenDocument format to make sure that it was "Good Enough (TM)" but instead they were the only member of OASIS that didn't participate.
About: Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
[September 7, 2005, 13:34]
ISO's OOXML committee in ODF takeover bid?
Blog This committee has now - if I understand it right - offered to help Oasis, the source of the rival ODF standard (accepted as ISO/IEC 26300: 2006) to maintain that standard too. And Oasis already has a group maintaining the standard, she points out.
[October 5, 2008, 22:36 in News Blog by PeterJudge]
Actually MS Office 2007 complies with official Ecma standard
Talkback An important reason for this is that for ODF OASIS is doing maintenance on the standard. The OASIS version actually are not the same as the ISO version because OASIS is not submitting all version to ISO.
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[February 28, 2008, 17:43 by Albert]
Interoperability and the binary ODF conversion dilemma
Talkback Given the importance of being able to convert MS binaries to ODF, one would think that the OASIS ODF TC would do whatever it takes to improve conversion fidelity for both import and export. Florian also represented Novell on the OASIS ODF TC, the...
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[February 29, 2008, 7:24 by garyedwards]
Not inconsistent at all
Talkback My objection to Relax NG DTD Compatibility, is not that it is an OASIS Committee Specifcation rather than an ISO Standard. My objection to apply that specification is that ODF 1.0 does not claim to conform to the part of that standard that was...
About: OOXML expert: ODF standard is broken
[May 22, 2008, 11:35 by RCWeir]
Parliament 'didn't understand RIP Act'
Talkback http://www.gliif.org/ http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php? So.if these RIP proposals on data access/retention go through, cui bono? wg_abbrev=legalxml-intercept http://www.verisign.com/corporate/news/2003/pr_20030604.html
About: Parliament 'didn't understand RIP Act'
[November 8, 2003, 16:36]
ISO or Microsoft ?
Talkback "Delegates from 15 national standards bodies unanimously agreed to send the message to Oasis, because they are unhappy with its work maintaining ODF, said Alex Brown, convenor of WG1, a working group within SC 34.
About: ISO offers to take on ODF maintenance
[October 7, 2008, 11:58 by Luc Bollen]
Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
Talkback Since it is open and not encumbered by patents, even Microsoft -- a member of the OASIS technical committee for OpenDocument, no less -- could choose support it. Yates is incorrect. OpenDocument is supported by many suites.
About: Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
[September 6, 2005, 9:14]
Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
Talkback What I find funny, is that OOo 2.0 beta 2 supports MS XML (on top of 'original' MSO 97/XP formats) - it might be patchy, long to load/save, but it does seem to work with MSO 2003 XML formats; since OOo exploits all of OASIS XML document formats...
About: Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
[September 6, 2005, 16:21]
Tail end of previous comment
Talkback They know the Ecma - OASIS vendor consortia channel has to be closed. . ISO knows this stuff. They know they have a serious problem that will destroy their credibility. My guess is that Patrick Durusau has already announced one plan to save ISO.
About: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
[March 3, 2008, 18:18 by garyedwards]
