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Story: Microsoft moves to integrate Windows with BIOS

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Posted by: Anonymous (Friday 3 October 2003, 8:59 PM)

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They are trying to rule the wold but will fail. Most businesses are not renewing PCs as often as they used to, still stuck with old BIOS and old OS. This will give them even more incentive to delay. Also, there are other manufacturers of BIOS, and even somewhere an open-source BIOS (which at the moment needs a minimal hardware BIOS to boot, but could easily be made standalone.

The only thing which will prevent free and open solutions is if motherboard chipset info is not available. After all, the BIOS is TINY compared to Linux, or BSD, or the Gimp, or any of the many other pieces of good open-source software. Remember that the code to handle most features of most chipsets is already available freely under at least GPL and BSD licences, as Linux and *BSD effectively implement BIOS functionality in the kernel (so, gross simplification, hardware interactions can be preemptively multiasked and be 32 or even 64 bit like everything else). They only need the hardware boot loader.

If the chipset manufacturers supply details to M$ but not anyone else, I think they would be liable to legal action in any civilised country. In any case, could M$ control EVERY Taiwanese motherboard manufacturer?

But, the fact that Bill wants us all to run updated X-Boxes (because that is effectively what they will be) is quite depressing, it shows that he has even less competence than I imagined, and the fact that he is going for a totalitarian monopoly shows that he has no morals either. I almost feel sorry for the guy, little technical competence and a greed he can't satisfy, probably a more extreme form of megalomania than Hitler or Saddam.

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Story: Microsoft moves to integrate Windows with BIOS

  1. Bull. To put it mildly. Anyone with half a brain (... Jeff Partridge
  2. Microsoft's plan to integrate the operating system... Phil A
  3. OH, GREAT. Soon we'll have viruses infecting not o... Anonymous
  4. Can't they keep their hands off of anything? I've... Jeff A.
  5. Ok..it takes A LOT to scare me. This scares me. Dan
  6. They are trying to rule the wold but will fail. Mo... Anonymous
  7. Gatezooks Batman! Can Bill be stealing another App... Michel Levesque
  8. Phoenix is only one of the many global organsation... Adebayo Omo-Dare
  9. An attempt to squelch Linux? Hm... They're not s... Laura
  10. just boycot any mobo with that bios.. that takes... joeldg
  11. TO ALL WHO ARGUE THAT WE HAVE A CHOICE: Yes,... Anonymous
  12. This article is about to get posted on slashdot, h... Anonymous
  13. "The BIOS would also allow better control of unaut... Jim Storch
  14. Wow, that's the last Phoenix bios I buy, shame too... edfardos
  15. Good news! Microsoft is trying to take over yet a... Anonymous
  16. As Michel Levesque said, Apple has been doing this... John Thurlow
  17. someone need to shurdown Microsoft. I hope some gr... Anonymous
  18. The anti-MS sentiments here are pathetic... Micros... Anonymous
  19. I flat out refuse to buy a motherboard with a Wind... Sean Darrenkamp
  20. Uhhhh ....it´s gonna be messy I´d guess . I very m... Winston Graeme
  21. might want to spell authorized as authorized and n... Anonymous
  22. This is ZDNet.co.uk. In the UK authorized is spelt... Anonymous
  23. Thats opening the door to windows virus that will... blackcomb
  24. Re: What Apple does When Microsoft startes making... Anonymous
  25. First SCO kernel lawsuits... now this? What's nex... Gill Bates
  26. Provided versions of the BIOS are made available w... Anonymous
  27. If people can get around all the MS-Specific stuff... Jerry Leik
  28. I beg your pardon, but doesn't this run afoul of t... Anonymous
  29. And I thought the only advantage DOS had over CP/M... Mark Harvey
  30. R.E: Matthew Broersma You make it sound like Micro... Anonymous
  31. We are borg; you are fud. Our daily mantra here at... LinuxIsOverRated
  32. I do not like this one bit at all. Microsoft is be... Matt S.
  33. I believe, Microsoft will not be able to do such a... Nitrocloud
  34. I would just like to know if when Microsoft says t... Eric Damron
  35. Time to develop an open-source hardware platform t... g salter
  36. Oh.. right.. so another bribe underway. Whats next... Gunblade
  37. This stinks. What about the settlement reach rega... Anonymous
  38. This is the most selfish thing I heard since I fo... Kris mason
  39. It's not complicated that problem its what we call... Michel Plante
  40. The Apple model is actually different. They provi... Anonymous
  41. *sniff sniff* I smell IBM and MCA here..wonder if... Doug Mayfield
  42. What Microsoft and Phoenix are doing is very simil... Ezra
  43. I say let them do it!!!! i PESONALLY don't ca... joelol75
  44. Oh fuck. That thing sucks. Windows was OK for me b... Fast Finn
  45. Firstly, If Microsoft were an actual monopoly like... John McKenzie
  46. The Roman Empire fell, the supposed Third Rei... Anonymous
  47. The Roman Empire fell, the supposed Third Rei... Anonymous
  48. You morons act like you don't have a choice. Even... UrbanRiot
  49. This *cannot* be allowed to happen. It constitute... ajs318
  50. The only difference I see between Apple doing this... Perry Nichols
  51. I think Robin Williams said it best on an HBO stan... Nick Balatoni
  52. I should also add that my other statement really w... Nick Balatoni
  53. The difference being that the software and the har... Facade
  54. I think Windows in the BIOS is a great idea. Work... Majik Fox
  55. I wish Windows would migrate to a diode and stay t... Anonymous
  56. Well... BIOS patch every day and 6 Service Packs p... Anonymous
  57. I can see another action against M$. I custom bu... Nigel
  58. The real goal should be to eliminate DRIVERS. Mos... john
  59. Just proves microsoft wants complete control of ev... Anonymous
  60. Isn't this close integration of software and hardw... Anonymous
  61. Erm, that's a very, very bad idea. Remember CIH? W... IgGy
  62. Microsoft say this will make computers more reliab... Leonard Gore
  63. This is so great! I'm really thrilled about this M... Adam Sindelar
  64. Well, I think that I quite simply will turn over... Anonymous
  65. Will be the last phonix bios for me to unless, the... Kenneth
  66. Yeah, why should they try just to hang the parts o... Anonymous
  67. BeOS users on the Mac already know what "killing o... Rodrigo de Arcayne
  68. Microsoft is an insidious parasite that refuses to... Anonymous
  69. All this, not to mention that "integrate"-d code c... Anonymous
  70. Someone said that we should lay off Microsoft beca... Linux User
  71. I think MS allready lost its anti trust law suit. Anonymous
  72. Soon I wont be able to take a dump without MS know... Clay S
  73. Well hmm i think it would be stupid for Windows an... JoshsMac
  74. As Michel Levesque said, Apple has been doing this... b0lt
  75. [quote]The anti-MS sentiments here are pathetic...... Arden
  76. One folk, one country, one operating system? Nisse Konkas
  77. One of the reasons I use a PC as opposed to a Mac... Anonymous
  78. Microsoft with the help of DRM and palladium will... Anonymous
  79. thinks.....OS controls BIOS, OS controls software,... Nick Darley-Jones
  80. good move microsoft ,people how don't like it ,wil... Olivier Rallon
  81. I think it is atrocious that Microsoft wants to co... Steven Thompson
  82. Monopoly anyone? Alienate such a group of users as... Anonymous
  83. OK, so we can put an OS on a motherboard chip with... Anonymous
  84. They're going to have to make this a bloody good O... Charles
  85. Like any smart consumer, I think this is a step in... Bob Lablah
  86. Where does this place Intel's Vanderpool? (Multi-O... Chiral
  87. Microsoft's tentacles are not and never will be wi... Anonymous
  88. I really do not think that most people will not go... David Ross
  89. Crime'o'soft still tryin' to control the world...... Dam - France
  90. There's a first. Microsoft and security spoken in... Munch
  91. This is a BAD IDEA I hav mi own idea. It is not fi... http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/
  92. I have just come out of a situation where, if the... Anonymous
  93. One more time, Micro$oft shows us his voluntee for... Morithil Gaeldîr
  94. What is the alternative , if this happens, someone... willy willcome
  95. are particular BIOS developer tied to specific mob... Anonymous
  96. Our lovely friends at Microsoftİ have decided to t... Phlux
  97. I'm just disgusted. David Ammouial
  98. Thats f*ck'n computer communism! Nick Anderson
  99. I remember that Kro$oft cried out about GNU/Linux... yaen pujol
  100. I can see it now. A Microsoft website devoted to... Anonymous
  101. What would you like to see in the future MIcrosoft... Anonymous
  102. I would like to see a small penguin prominent... mustals
  103. hmhmhm, If you have been in the industry as long... Dave
  104. In the good ole times of the Sinclair SPECTRUM (tm... Dragos Dinescu
  105. You've got to be kidding! Let's open a new can of... Mr BOB
  106. just who does bill gates think he is?. an arr... Anonymous
  107. bios v1.3.............blue screen of death Anonymous
  108. Hands off the hardware, Gates, or I go Linux passerby
  109. My worries are that when computers are sold with t... Richard Dean

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