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Story: My response to Richard Stallman
To the previous poster..............................................
Before I start, could you make up some nonsense handle and let ZDNet display it? At least I would be able to say "To so and so." As things stand, everyone who has posted is is anonymous, and it COULD be all the same person, but it might not be.
Regarding the statement I called "doublespeak:"
> In fact, he wrote that the entire
> goal of the Free Software Movement
> is to ensure that the needs of users
> are elevated to equivalent to the rights
> of developers in the software social
> contract.
Sounds uplifting, doesn't it, and like developers are championing the needs of the common man. However, that is EXACTLY its intent. It doesn't make the claim any more useful, however, or any more valid.
Imagine you have a bunch of people living on the coast who believe they have a right to government-provided boats. It's harder to convince everyone that they NEED boats, particularly if they live in Des Moines, Iowa, where there isn't much need for such a thing. A good way to phrase a special-interest demand, therefore, is to do the the Free Software Movement
> is to ensure that the needs of users
> are elevated to equivalent to the rights
> of developers in the software social
> contract.:
following:
"the entire goal of the Free Boat movement is to ensure the needs of average citizens are elevated in the social contract to the equivalent of the rights of people who live on the coast"
It's a way of making a special-interest desire seem more generally applicable, and the advocates like they are championing the god-given rights of all.
That's a common way for open source advocates to speak, and ESPECIALLY Mr. Stallman. Hey, it's effective...but it's useful to cut through the doublespeak to consider whether what he is saying is REALLY something that all the world needs or wants.
> You seem to insist that we should
> choose proprietary software whether
> or not it's better for freedom.
You're starting from the presumption that proprietary software is actually limiting of your freedom. I argued in your article that it isn't, and that your PERCEPTION that it limits your freedom is YOURS, not something inherent in the nature of proprietary software.
> Then, when people point out, repeatedly,
> that your opinion is full of holes, well,
> you come out with a new article and
> make all the same absurd claims over
> there, abandoning the tough questions
> here.
So my opinions are OBJECTIVELY full of holes? Obviously, I didn't agree, or I wouldn't continue to use the line of reasoning I use in my articles. You speak as if reality is some platonic form that you and Richard Stallman have some special channel into. Well, it's not. I DON'T abandon the tought questions, and if I might add, how many other commentators bother to dive into the talkbacks and battle it out? I'm willing to face my critics. I'm not willing to be ABUSED by them, but that's a different issue. Critics who make arguments (as you, for the most part, are doing) I am perfectly willing to confront. Just don't presume that I must necessarily be convinced of your arguments.
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Story: My response to Richard Stallman
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I am free to modify my schwinn after I have bought... Anonymous -
Yes, you are free to change your Schwinn. You are... John Carroll -
It's all about choice. I choose to use free softwa... Anonymous -
> It's all about choice. I choose to
> use free s... John Carroll -
> Stallman is saying that we should ONLY
> have op... Anonymous -
This raises an interesting question about support.... Anonymous -
Some more clarifications............................. John Carroll -
John Carrol revaricated in the following manner:
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To the previous poster............................... John Carroll -
John,
Real freedom in this arena means that... Jamie Miller -
I'm sorry, John. Truly. I hope you don't feel offe... NNTZ -
To NNTZ, the conehead responds....................... John Carroll -
I agree with John.
Most users are not that interes... Esther Payne -
Never heard of Lindows...
Lindows is based on GPL... Anonymous -
From the writings I've read on this subject, the a... Neil Taggart -
I always find these conversations amusing. I use a... Average Smoe -
The "Open Source" debate has many sides, and usual... Sander Stoks
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