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Story: Gates takes a side-swipe at Apple, Linux security

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Posted by: Scott Marlowe (Tuesday 27 January 2004, 6:47 PM)

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Microsoft applications and operating systems are designed from the beginning with more vulnerabilities.

An example is when Microsoft first offered Active X as an answer to Java.

Now, both Java and Active X have had their share of security problems, but Java was designed to provide a sand box from the beginning, so the only danger was someone finding a crack in the sand box walls, which has happened once or twice, and been patched fairly quickly.

Active X, on the other hand, was designed in a completely different manner. The idea being that you would only run trusted code from trusted suppliers. So, the goal with Active X, from the hacker perspective, is to convince the computer that your code is trustworthy. Note that this provides a much larger area in which the hacker can then play.

While security pundits pointed out how unweildy and dangerous this approach was, Microsoft scoffed and claimed it was just as safe as Java. Well, it isn't. Active X is responsible for a great deal of the security problems IE has.

My point here, is that you design a system from the ground up with certain inherent philosophies guiding you. If security is a key sticking point, then you make it secure first, then add bells and whistles.

If bells and whistles are the priority, you design those, and try to tack on some security later when you get a chance.

Unix (MAC OS, BSD, Linux, Solaris, HPUX, AIX, and yes, even SCO unixware) products are designed first to be secure. Features are added after the basics of secure design are taken care of.

Microsoft products are designed around an abundance of features, and real security is often little more than an afterthought.

Anyone who buys Bill Gates' party line about windows being hacked more because it's popular may be interested in some beautiful water front property I have available in the middle of Florida, USA.

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  2. Ha mythos over logos Billy Gates. MS Windows is a... Captain Korn
  3. BS Bill! Mac OS X is inherently more secure than... Anonymous
  4. You are right about your comment and there is... Anonymous
  5. Once again, the naiveté of Bill Gates just astound... tom burkowski
  6. Gates is right as usual. It's amazing how people'... Anonymous
  7. Jealous of Gates? Grow up, child. It takes a small... molymauk
  8. This is the greatest ball I ever listened to in my... Guido La Vespa
  9. What a moron. That's like saying a high number... Tom W.
  10. Microsoft applications and operating systems are d... Scott Marlowe
  11. First off, I am not a Mac guy or Linux user. I am... Anonymous
  12. I am guessing that Bill Gates uses the same Crack... Anonymous
  13. Why not have a "Cracker Showdown"? Let's challenge... Anonymous
  14. I think the FBI (USA Internal investigations for t... Pecos Bill
  15. This statement by Bill is a bit like someone on a... Anonymous
  16. Gates is using the sensible defensive strategy: go... Jose L. Hales-Garcia
  17. Gates understands the situation very well. How els... Clue Giver
  18. Security through obscurity - that old saw has been... Mac the User
  19. Windows is fundamentally flawed code and Gates kno... John Davis
  20. An apt analogy might be the quarterback, who, afte... Anonymous
  21. There is, indeed, a world beyond Gates and Windows... Anonymous
  22. Bill Gates? Who is this idiot? Anonymous
  23. I've used a Mac now for 15 years and never once du... Malcolm Roberts
  24. Bring 'em on! Hackers make us stronger...and the w... Anonymous
  25. Noting the large number of major virus epidemics d... Joe
  26. First Off, Lets agree that no operating system now... Anonymous
  27. Dear Mr. Gates: Hackers are good for nothing. Pur... Bill Gordon
  28. There are happy Windows users in this world. I can... Wayne Johnson
  29. First off, let's agree that MY SYSTEM is SAFE from... Mac OS X user
  30. You posted this article too early. April Fool's da... Anonymous
  31. People who see hackers as a scourge miss the point... National Security
  32. Maybe Bill should have a chat with his senior vice... Jonathan
  33. Let's apply this logic elsewhere, shall we? "A Cit... Anonymous
  34. This is closer to it: Baghdad is manifestly safer... Anonymous
  35. After my initial reaction of "What the heck is tha... Tom Caswelch
  36. "Just because no one attacks it it does not make i... Anonymous
  37. Gates is desperate here. The several charges brou... Shane Walker
  38. Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.... Anonymous
  39. What an arrogant SOB. It is his companys lack of p... Anonymous
  40. Either eat your cake or keep it Bill, but you can'... Rodd Clarkson
  41. My opinion about M$: "One can fool some people on... Tim Isher
  42. I have no idea whose OS is more secure. I only kno... Darrell Gudmundson
  43. I don't think that most of you are looking at the... Daniel Belanger
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  45. Lets see Apple humm yes alot of hackers want to sc... Thomas Belajonas
  46. $250 an hour eh? well sign me up son. I just hope... C P Will
  47. $250=cost, not salary. He's saying they COST a lo... Anonymous
  48. bi'chin like little girls and everyone missin... Anonymous

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