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Story: Gates takes a side-swipe at Apple, Linux security

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Posted by: Pecos Bill (Tuesday 27 January 2004, 7:28 PM)

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I think the FBI (USA Internal investigations for those not in the know) says it best:

Dave had some surprises up his sleeve as well. You'll remember that I said he was using a ThinkPad (running Windows!). I asked him about that, and he told us that many of the computer security folks back at FBI HQ use Macs running OS X, since those machines can do just about anything: run software for Mac, Unix, or Windows, using either a GUI or the command line. And they're secure out of the box. In the field, however, they don't have as much money to spend, so they have to stretch their dollars by buying WinTel-based hardware. Are you listening, Apple? The FBI wants to buy your stuff. Talk to them!

Dave also had a great quotation for us: "If you're a bad guy and you want to frustrate law enforcement, use a Mac." Basically, police and government agencies know what to do with seized Windows machines. They can recover whatever information they want, with tools that they've used countless times. The same holds true, but to a lesser degree, for Unix-based machines. But Macs evidently stymie most law enforcement personnel. They just don't know how to recover data on them. So what do they do? By and large, law enforcement personnel in American end up sending impounded Macs needing data recovery to the acknowledged North American Mac experts: the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Evidently the Mounties have built up a knowledge and technique for Mac forensics that is second to none.

from:
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/215

(Mac's aren't that much more if you compare evenly. That's not the point, though. The point is Gates should be embarrassed by that comment aka FUD.)

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  14. I think the FBI (USA Internal investigations for t... Pecos Bill
  15. This statement by Bill is a bit like someone on a... Anonymous
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  17. Gates understands the situation very well. How els... Clue Giver
  18. Security through obscurity - that old saw has been... Mac the User
  19. Windows is fundamentally flawed code and Gates kno... John Davis
  20. An apt analogy might be the quarterback, who, afte... Anonymous
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  23. I've used a Mac now for 15 years and never once du... Malcolm Roberts
  24. Bring 'em on! Hackers make us stronger...and the w... Anonymous
  25. Noting the large number of major virus epidemics d... Joe
  26. First Off, Lets agree that no operating system now... Anonymous
  27. Dear Mr. Gates: Hackers are good for nothing. Pur... Bill Gordon
  28. There are happy Windows users in this world. I can... Wayne Johnson
  29. First off, let's agree that MY SYSTEM is SAFE from... Mac OS X user
  30. You posted this article too early. April Fool's da... Anonymous
  31. People who see hackers as a scourge miss the point... National Security
  32. Maybe Bill should have a chat with his senior vice... Jonathan
  33. Let's apply this logic elsewhere, shall we? "A Cit... Anonymous
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  35. After my initial reaction of "What the heck is tha... Tom Caswelch
  36. "Just because no one attacks it it does not make i... Anonymous
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