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Story: Firefox 1.0PR: a first look

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Posted by: Phil Brown (Friday 17 September 2004, 12:42 AM)

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Mamut, I really can't understand where you are coming from. Its rebuttal time:

> Tabbed MDI, standard OS interface:
> 1. Remember that the "Internet thingy" is shown in one window

If this is hard to remember, then you have bigger problems. Better to have 1 internet thingy to jump to than 100, each displayed in the ALT+TAB widget as the exact same icon

> 2. Click on that window's button at the _bottom_ of the screen

Or ALT+TAB

> 3. Remember page name / tab location

Page title is in the tab, again, not much required here

> 4. Click on that tab at the _top_ or _possibly at the bottom_ (you have to remeber that, too) of the screen.

Or CTRL+TAB to cycle FireFox tabs the same way you would cycle applications with ALT+TAB. OR, CTRL+. I don't even see this one in your SDI (IE), standard OS interface.

> And tell me one more thing. Would you switch from your comfy WinWord 2k / XP interface back to WinWord 97 interface? I guessed you would say 'no'. So why is reverting back to old interface concepts is called a good thing?

Again, not sure where you're going with this one. How is FireFox an "old interface"

On the Google bar in FireFox - you CAN add multiple search engines to use (see the "Add Engines" menu item from the search bar drop-down)

> Show me the real stuff.
> Fast page rendering.
Yup, faster than IE

> Standard plug-ins.
Show me the non-standard ones?

> _Non-intrusive_ error messages (_not_ message boxes).
Its called the JavaScript console and it doesn't even open unless you open it. Doesn't get much more "non-intrusive" than that.
On that matter, its not only non-intrusive, its actually helpful, especially if you're a developer. Messages like "Object Required on line 1233874" in IE mean nothing.

> Compliance to standards _and_ non-standards that have a tendency to become standards de facto, like DHTML. Yes, DHTML!
What are you smoking?

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