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Story: Gates: Restricting IP rights is tantamount to communism

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Posted by: Kevin Peacock (Monday 10 January 2005, 3:02 PM)

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Brent Roberts is wrong.

"Gates is precisely correct: communism operates by the abolition of property rights."

Communism operates by the state control of property rights. It explicitly does NOT abolish property rights. Intellectual property is where the state confers the rights of this control onto other organisations.

Ergo Intellectual Property more closely resembles communism than does shared source.

Other common factors of Gates' desired outcome with communism:

- state controlled, monolithic organisations direct technology to suit their own purposes
- a de facto elite benefit to the detriment of the rest of society
- restricted choice for consumers
- competing products are effectively outlawed

Meanwhile Open Source more closely resembles capitalism:

- the 'market' decides which innovations are successful
- the 'market' allows for far more dynamic change than a centrally controlled system
- the 'market' makes much more efficient use of resources
- those that succeed are the best overall suppliers, and not just those that were first and managed to 'own' a whole technological invention / method

"Men need to have the right to dispose of the product of their effort (whether intellectual or otherwise) in order to survive."

Intellectual property rights can prevent those that independently arrive at a similar (or superior) solution from benefitting from their work.

"If US "greed" actually did not lead to innovation, then why has not a single company been able to create a product superior to Microsfot Office?"

Define 'superior'. OpenOffice is free. Value for Money wise, you can't get much better than that.

"without the backing of companies who have their IP rights protected, it will go nowhere."

A statement that is wholly false. IBM are just one of many companies showing that you can make money from using Open Source products.

The very fact that Gates is having to resort to ever more FUD such as this about Open Source shows pretty explicitly that it IS going somewhere. Even in its own SEC filings, Microsoft admits "The popularization of the open source movement continues to pose a significant challenge to the company's business model"

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Story: Gates: Restricting IP rights is tantamount to communism

  1. The magic word "communism" always seems to be used... Arthur B.
  2. Are we suddenly back in the 1950s? Perhaps Mr... Chris Rankin
  3. I agree with Arthur B. Mr Gates should read... Micheal H
  4. Gates is precisely correct: communism operat... Brent Roberts
  5. Confusion between IP rights and copyrigh... Steve B
  6. Brent Roberts is wrong. "Gates is precis... Kevin Peacock
  7. There can be so such 'rights' which... Brent Roberts
  8. Brent. Sigh. Communism has not... Arthur B.
  9. If a requisite of "skills, kno... Brent Roberts
  10. Brent. I would like to recomme... Arthur B.
  11. An interesting debate Brent, b... Kevin Peacock
  12. Lets stick with the mousetrap... Brent Roberts
  13. A good reply Arthur. Brent, I... Kevin Peacock
  14. Hi Brent, what OO version are you using... ricardo mardisich
  15. Ricardo – I'm using version 1.1.1.... Brent Roberts
  16. Oh bugger off, the world's a better place with win... samuel
  17. Samuel, Replying to you in the same vein as y... Andy
  18. Not much ammunition left for Mr Gates. I... Anonymous
  19. The world Mr Gates wants to see has far more in co... Kevin Peacock
  20. I see he's had to resort to name-calling again. So... Steve J
  21. World is much worse off thanks to MS and IBM... Steve B
  22. I think that Gates is unwanted and unnee... NJ
  23. Kevin. Well said. Very well said. B... Arthur B.
  24. "Its eyes ever set on the competition, Microsoft w... Ricardo Mardisich
  25. Microsoft Litigation Resource Page "the world... ricardo mardisich
  26. Ricardo, thanks for your comment. We wou... Matt Loney
  27. Beside the fact that this is nothing more than FUD... BURNAND Patrick
  28. I find Bill Gates comments on mesh networking inte... Andy Coney
  29. In a similar discussion on IP rights on a dif... Mark Jones
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