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Story: Gates: Restricting IP rights is tantamount to communism

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Posted by: Kevin Peacock (Tuesday 11 January 2005, 9:10 AM)

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An interesting debate Brent, but I still fundamentally disagree with you.

You can have your philosphic argument on what 'rights' are. In my view, whether the state itself owns rights, or allows another entity to control them amounts to the same effect. And that is, a chilling effect on innovation. Why invent a better mousetrap when you hold the patent and your customers have no choice but to buy the one you choose to sell? Your competitors are legally prevented from selling a superior mousetrap.

"The conceprt of a "right" pertains to action - specifically, to freedom of action. What does the idea of "state controlled" rights imply? It means that the state may take away this freedom to action. One who has freedom of action at times, which may be revoked at any other time by the whim of the state, is acting by permission, not by right."

In exactly the same way, the private holder of IP rights can take away the freedom to action of others using their IP.

"As far as what Gates' desired outcomes are, I cannot say, but neither can anyone else. I can note, however, that not once does he advocate the abolishion of open source in the present article."

Come off it. Of course he isn't going to outright say something like that. But you seem to be an intelligent man. Are you really unable to see the intent? This is all about FUD.

"And stating that IBM makes money from open source strengthens my argument. I said open source needs the backing of companies to go somewhere. IBM is giving Linux tremendous credibilty and is a beneficial ally."

Thats not quite what you said before in your first post. You clearly implied that Open Source was fun, but would go nowhere without backing from companies who could protect IP rights.

There is no explicit link between the two. IBM make money from open source by selling related products and services. That has nothing to do with IP rights.

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Story: Gates: Restricting IP rights is tantamount to communism

  1. The magic word "communism" always seems to be used... Arthur B.
  2. Are we suddenly back in the 1950s? Perhaps Mr... Chris Rankin
  3. I agree with Arthur B. Mr Gates should read... Micheal H
  4. Gates is precisely correct: communism operat... Brent Roberts
  5. Confusion between IP rights and copyrigh... Steve B
  6. Brent Roberts is wrong. "Gates is precis... Kevin Peacock
  7. There can be so such 'rights' which... Brent Roberts
  8. Brent. Sigh. Communism has not... Arthur B.
  9. If a requisite of "skills, kno... Brent Roberts
  10. Brent. I would like to recomme... Arthur B.
  11. An interesting debate Brent, b... Kevin Peacock
  12. Lets stick with the mousetrap... Brent Roberts
  13. A good reply Arthur. Brent, I... Kevin Peacock
  14. Hi Brent, what OO version are you using... ricardo mardisich
  15. Ricardo – I'm using version 1.1.1.... Brent Roberts
  16. Oh bugger off, the world's a better place with win... samuel
  17. Samuel, Replying to you in the same vein as y... Andy
  18. Not much ammunition left for Mr Gates. I... Anonymous
  19. The world Mr Gates wants to see has far more in co... Kevin Peacock
  20. I see he's had to resort to name-calling again. So... Steve J
  21. World is much worse off thanks to MS and IBM... Steve B
  22. I think that Gates is unwanted and unnee... NJ
  23. Kevin. Well said. Very well said. B... Arthur B.
  24. "Its eyes ever set on the competition, Microsoft w... Ricardo Mardisich
  25. Microsoft Litigation Resource Page "the world... ricardo mardisich
  26. Ricardo, thanks for your comment. We wou... Matt Loney
  27. Beside the fact that this is nothing more than FUD... BURNAND Patrick
  28. I find Bill Gates comments on mesh networking inte... Andy Coney
  29. In a similar discussion on IP rights on a dif... Mark Jones
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