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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

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Posted by: Albert (Thursday 28 February 2008, 6:43 PM)

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Actually MS Office 2007 complies with official Ecma standard

Currently there is only one official open standard version of OOXML and that is the Ecma 376 standard.
http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-376.htm
MS Office 2007 uses that version and validates on those XML schema's .
Soon there might be a new version of ISO OOXML and that is then likely to become the new Ecma 376 version as well. The ISO version will probably become Ecma 376 v1.1.

You might not have noticed but ODF actually has
ODF 1.0,
ODF ISO,
ODF v1.0 SE (second edition)
ODF v1.1
ODF v1.2 (in draft phase)
Amazingly the main OOo implemantation does not fully support ANY of these ODF versions.
Also the current changes planned for v1.2 of ODF are MUCH MUCH MUCH more drastic and complex changes to the format than the total of changes that come out of the ISO standardization proces for OOXML.

To call the state of OOXML "a state of flux" might be correct but in comparison the state of ODF might translate as "a state of chaos".

An important reason for this is that for ODF OASIS is doing maintenance on the standard. For OOXML the maintenance will be done by Ecma and ISO together. So the Ecma and ISO version will be the same. The OASIS version actually are not the same as the ISO version because OASIS is not submitting all version to ISO. So at the moment not only OOo but actually most ODF implementations are NOT ISO ODF version compliant.

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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

  1. Google has invested in competing format Albert
  2. Very nice Albert lars
  3. The rest of the text in the previous tal... lars
  4. Google motivation Albert
  5. Document standards 2000355890
  6. Questioning Google’s objectiveness harpless
  7. Microsoft's Argument is Ridiculous Goldie Simmons
  8. Microsoft double-tongued Anonymous123
  9. ODF useless for Microsoft needs Albert
  10. Which OOXML features in particular can't... Chris Rankin
  11. Features not in ODF Albert
  12. Of course ODF isn't backwards... Chris Rankin
  13. ODF also has backwards compati... Albert
  14. Actually, you're making all th... Chris Rankin
  15. If you plan for incompatiblity... Albert
  16. XML in spirit isn't going to be as effic... Anonymous123
  17. OOXML performance explained Albert
  18. Thank you for an intelligent r... Anonymous123
  19. MS influencing ODF development... Albert
  20. Terse markup for speed -- NOT Marbux
  21. Actually OOXML is not really t... Albert
  22. Do tell me more, Albert Marbux
  23. explaination Albert
  24. Then why does the same spreads... Marbux
  25. ODF better readable but less g... Albert
  26. Extensions are bugs, not featu... Marbux
  27. insufficient and unnecessary standard, designed pu... ator1940
  28. OOXML is fully open Albert
  29. But does even Microsoft Office use OOXML... Chris Rankin
  30. Office and OOXML David Meyer ZD
  31. Then why add "read"... Chris Rankin
  32. MS Office 2007 does fully support O... Albert
  33. 00o writes compliant files Goldie Simmons
  34. No, OOo is not fully complient... Albert
  35. Widespread support for OOXML a... Albert
  36. Questions for the community Goldie Simmons
  37. ODF and OOXML are standards in... Marbux
  38. Albert, give me a single examp... Marbux
  39. Interoperability Albert
  40. OOXML interop is abysmal Marbux
  41. Extensions to ODF realistic ? Albert
  42. Undocumented eXtensions and St... garyedwards
  43. Not 1,500 extensions Marbux
  44. You've got to be kidding,... Marbux
  45. You are contradicting Rupert G... Chris Rankin
  46. MS Office 2007 files fully val... Albert
  47. That's OK, I contradict R... Rupert Goodwins ZD
  48. Actually MS Office 2007 compli... Albert
  49. Open Standards Moley
  50. OOXML is Open Albert
  51. It's a question of greate... Chris Rankin
  52. Believe is in the prove Albert
  53. Interoperability and the binary ODF conversion di... garyedwards
  54. Sorry, the comment was cut short. Here'... garyedwards
  55. Thanks Gary, very informative Goldie Simmons
  56. Reasons for lack of interoperbility in ODF Albert
  57. Durusau's proposal is preposterous Marbux
  58. A bit of background... Anonymous123
  59. ODF, The Big Picture Goldie Simmons
  60. A very Interesting Take Moley
  61. ISO Credibility garyedwards
  62. Tail end of previous comment garyedwards
  63. Cut to the chase garyedwards
  64. Microsoft moves forward with OOXML SDK Karen Friar ZD
  65. Breaking the Web garyedwards

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