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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

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Posted by: Goldie Simmons (Friday 29 February 2008, 12:08 AM)

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Questions for the community

[quote] Here an example of why OOo does not comply with ODF spec: link [/quote]

First off, I'm no expert on document formats and not qualified to debate their development. I'm pretty sure that most mathematicians like TEX for displaying mathematical formulas. That would be my choice, but I guess it's not an ISO standard.

Looks to me like the example you give demonstrates an error in how OpenOffice.org displays the MathML given a particular set of circumstances. Like you said, the standard is relatively new, there's bound to be kinks. For the life of me, I can't see how this equates to “ OOo does not comply with the ODF specification”. This seems more akin to a software bug to me.

Also, this seems like a whole world of difference from producing documents which contain many elements not specified in OOXML (EMCA 376), such as binary code, macros, OLE objects, ActiveX, DRM, SharePoint metadata and other technology, proprietary or otherwise. I'm pretty sure Microsoft Office 2007 uses some are all of these features.

So I'm wondering what happens if I use one or more of these features and save the file in the *default format*. What the heck gets saved? OOXML (EMCA 376), according to Albert. How can this be if the spec doesn't mention em? What happens if another application sends me an OOXML (EMCA 376) compliant file and I make edits to it? Will it get saved in the same format?

Seems I'm not the only one confused, even amongst the semi-experts in our community. Maybe we can get some clarification from a neutral party?

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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

  1. Very nice Albert lars
  2. Microsoft double-tongued Anonymous123
  3. ODF useless for Microsoft needs Albert
  4. OOXML is fully open Albert
  5. Sorry, the comment was cut short. Here'... garyedwards
  6. Reasons for lack of interoperbility in ODF Albert
  7. ODF, The Big Picture Goldie Simmons
  8. Breaking the Web garyedwards
  9. Google has invested in competing format Albert
  10. Document standards 2000355890
  11. Questioning Google’s objectiveness harpless
  12. Microsoft's Argument is Ridiculous Goldie Simmons
  13. insufficient and unnecessary standard, designed pu... ator1940
  14. Interoperability and the binary ODF conversion di... garyedwards
  15. A bit of background... Anonymous123
  16. Microsoft moves forward with OOXML SDK Karen Friar ZD
  17. The rest of the text in the previous tal... lars
  18. Google motivation Albert
  19. Which OOXML features in particular can't... Chris Rankin
  20. XML in spirit isn't going to be as effic... Anonymous123
  21. But does even Microsoft Office use OOXML... Chris Rankin
  22. Thanks Gary, very informative Goldie Simmons
  23. Durusau's proposal is preposterous Marbux
  24. A very Interesting Take Moley
  25. Features not in ODF Albert
  26. OOXML performance explained Albert
  27. Office and OOXML David Meyer ZD
  28. MS Office 2007 does fully support O... Albert
  29. ISO Credibility garyedwards
  30. Thank you for an intelligent r... Anonymous123
  31. Of course ODF isn't backwards... Chris Rankin
  32. Then why add "read"... Chris Rankin
  33. 00o writes compliant files Goldie Simmons
  34. You are contradicting Rupert G... Chris Rankin
  35. Terse markup for speed -- NOT Marbux
  36. Tail end of previous comment garyedwards
  37. Cut to the chase garyedwards
  38. ODF also has backwards compati... Albert
  39. MS influencing ODF development... Albert
  40. No, OOo is not fully complient... Albert
  41. MS Office 2007 files fully val... Albert
  42. That's OK, I contradict R... Rupert Goodwins ZD
  43. Widespread support for OOXML a... Albert
  44. Actually OOXML is not really t... Albert
  45. Actually MS Office 2007 compli... Albert
  46. Actually, you're making all th... Chris Rankin
  47. It's a question of greate... Chris Rankin
  48. Questions for the community Goldie Simmons
  49. Do tell me more, Albert Marbux
  50. Albert, give me a single examp... Marbux
  51. Open Standards Moley
  52. If you plan for incompatiblity... Albert
  53. Believe is in the prove Albert
  54. ODF and OOXML are standards in... Marbux
  55. explaination Albert
  56. ODF better readable but less g... Albert
  57. Interoperability Albert
  58. OOXML is Open Albert
  59. Then why does the same spreads... Marbux
  60. Extensions are bugs, not featu... Marbux
  61. OOXML interop is abysmal Marbux
  62. Extensions to ODF realistic ? Albert
  63. Undocumented eXtensions and St... garyedwards
  64. Not 1,500 extensions Marbux
  65. You've got to be kidding,... Marbux

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