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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
Then why does the same spreadsheet load faster in ODF?
Albert, the difference in conversion speed when loading or saving a file from to OOXML is negligible. Were that not true, the da Vinci plug-in for MS Excel could not load a million row ODF spreadsheet into IMBR faster than the same spreadheet rendered in OOXML.
Moreover, the Excel 2007 team created the binary XML Infoset Workbook format for very large spreadsheets, which is not part of the OOXML specification. If the OOXML terse markup is so great for speeding up export and import of files, why did Microsoft feel the need to do that?
The short story here is that you were taken in by a bit of Microsoft smoke and mirrors used to excuse not having the done the work to transform the terse markup into verbose, human legible markup in the XML tradition. I'm not in love with ODF, but at least the ODF TC did the work necessary to convert the original XML dump of the StarOffice binary format to verbose markup. The OOXML markup is terse because Microsoft didn't want to spend the development resources to make it human legible, not because it speeds processing of documents.
If society is ever to get to a rational decision on international standards, we need to stop repeating big vendor propaganda and deal with reality instead. OOXML sucks. ODF sucks. Where do we go from here?
-- Buck ("Marbux") Martin
Universal Interoperability Council
Full Talkback thread
Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'
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Very nice Albert lars -
Microsoft double-tongued Anonymous123 -
ODF useless for Microsoft needs Albert -
OOXML is fully open Albert -
Sorry, the comment was cut short. Here'... garyedwards -
Reasons for lack of interoperbility in ODF Albert -
ODF, The Big Picture Goldie Simmons -
Breaking the Web garyedwards -
Google has invested in competing format Albert -
Document standards 2000355890 -
Questioning Google’s objectiveness harpless -
Microsoft's Argument is Ridiculous Goldie Simmons -
insufficient and unnecessary standard, designed pu... ator1940 -
Interoperability and the binary ODF conversion di... garyedwards -
A bit of background... Anonymous123 -
Microsoft moves forward with OOXML SDK Karen Friar
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The rest of the text in the previous tal... lars -
Google motivation Albert -
Which OOXML features in particular can't... Chris Rankin -
XML in spirit isn't going to be as effic... Anonymous123 -
But does even Microsoft Office use OOXML... Chris Rankin -
Thanks Gary, very informative Goldie Simmons -
Durusau's proposal is preposterous Marbux -
A very Interesting Take Moley -
Features not in ODF Albert -
OOXML performance explained Albert -
Office and OOXML David Meyer
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MS Office 2007 does fully support O... Albert -
ISO Credibility garyedwards -
Thank you for an intelligent r... Anonymous123 -
Of course ODF isn't backwards... Chris Rankin -
Then why add "read"... Chris Rankin -
00o writes compliant files Goldie Simmons -
You are contradicting Rupert G... Chris Rankin -
Terse markup for speed -- NOT Marbux -
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Cut to the chase garyedwards -
ODF also has backwards compati... Albert -
MS influencing ODF development... Albert -
No, OOo is not fully complient... Albert -
MS Office 2007 files fully val... Albert -
That's OK, I contradict R... Rupert Goodwins
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Widespread support for OOXML a... Albert -
Actually OOXML is not really t... Albert -
Actually MS Office 2007 compli... Albert -
Actually, you're making all th... Chris Rankin -
It's a question of greate... Chris Rankin -
Questions for the community Goldie Simmons -
Do tell me more, Albert Marbux -
Albert, give me a single examp... Marbux -
Open Standards Moley -
If you plan for incompatiblity... Albert -
Believe is in the prove Albert -
ODF and OOXML are standards in... Marbux -
explaination Albert -
ODF better readable but less g... Albert -
Interoperability Albert -
OOXML is Open Albert -
Then why does the same spreads... Marbux -
Extensions are bugs, not featu... Marbux -
OOXML interop is abysmal Marbux -
Extensions to ODF realistic ? Albert -
Undocumented eXtensions and St... garyedwards -
Not 1,500 extensions Marbux -
You've got to be kidding,... Marbux









