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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

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Posted by: garyedwards (Thursday 13 March 2008, 6:01 PM)

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Breaking the Web

Hi Karen,

Thanks for the heads up. I did have a chance to comment further on the SDK in John Resig's blog; Unbreaking the Web. The issue was IE 8 passing the ACID 2 test, demonstrating surprising Microsoft compliance with W3C Web Standards. My position is that nothing can be further from the truth.

A few days ago in the Guardian i caught an interesting exchange involving Dean Hachamovitch, Microsoft's general manager for IE, speaking at the Mix08 keynote. The article was titled, IE aims to embrace the web again:

Hachamovitch was trying to explain why they finally brought IE into compliance with the ACID 2 test, and, why it took so long. "It comes down to what we were doing with our time," he said. "Between 2001 and 2003 we were building what you experience now as Windows Presentation Foundation and Silverlight."

The author of the article, Tim Anderson, then goes on to explain that, "These technologies display not HTML, the language of web pages, but XAML, Microsoft's proprietary code for creating rich visual content."

The MSOffice SDK provides a component for the easy conversion of OOXML XAML. XAML is also refered to in the SDK as fixed/flow. The recent announcement of a Silverlight browser plug-in / run time extension able to fully display OOXML documents is based on the SDK converter.

This puts IE 8 in an interesting position. It is the only browser capable of displaying advanced W3C HTML-5 + CSS 2.1 web documents, and, proprietary OOXMLXAML documents.

Interestingly, IE-8 does not support the XHTML mime type! Nor does it support JavaScript (otherwise known as EcmaScript). While arguments can be made that IE-8 supports lightweight transitional XHTML, it clearly doesn't support, or plan to support, highly structured XHTML + CSS+JavaScript. This is important because it is possible to capture in W3C CDF (XHTML + CSS) and convert the full richness and feature sweep of MSOffice OOXML.

The point where Microsoft has chosen to break the web is with highly structured XHTML + CSS documents. They are replacing W3C Standards with the proprietary XAML, reserving the transition to the web of billions of MSOffice business processes and documents for themselves. Think of it this way; the wealth of business processes bound to MSOffice workgroups is going to make that transition to the web, but not to an open web. The web we're talking about here is the MS Cloud, where high volume applications like MSOffice, Exchange, SharePoint, MS SQL Server and Windows Server speak through proprietary protocols and components such as XAML and the .NET libraries. IE-8 simply allows MS Cloud users to navigate the rest of the web.

If Microsoft can somehow wrangle ISO approval of OOXML, they can hide the fact that XAML and the entire information flow within the MS Cloud is proprietary. With ISO approval, the OOXML XAML converter becomes a web killer.

~ge~

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Story: Google: OOXML 'insufficient and unnecessary'

  1. Very nice Albert lars
  2. Microsoft double-tongued Anonymous123
  3. ODF useless for Microsoft needs Albert
  4. OOXML is fully open Albert
  5. Sorry, the comment was cut short. Here'... garyedwards
  6. Reasons for lack of interoperbility in ODF Albert
  7. ODF, The Big Picture Goldie Simmons
  8. Breaking the Web garyedwards
  9. Google has invested in competing format Albert
  10. Document standards 2000355890
  11. Questioning Google’s objectiveness harpless
  12. Microsoft's Argument is Ridiculous Goldie Simmons
  13. insufficient and unnecessary standard, designed pu... ator1940
  14. Interoperability and the binary ODF conversion di... garyedwards
  15. A bit of background... Anonymous123
  16. Microsoft moves forward with OOXML SDK Karen Friar ZD
  17. The rest of the text in the previous tal... lars
  18. Google motivation Albert
  19. Which OOXML features in particular can't... Chris Rankin
  20. XML in spirit isn't going to be as effic... Anonymous123
  21. But does even Microsoft Office use OOXML... Chris Rankin
  22. Thanks Gary, very informative Goldie Simmons
  23. Durusau's proposal is preposterous Marbux
  24. A very Interesting Take Moley
  25. Features not in ODF Albert
  26. OOXML performance explained Albert
  27. Office and OOXML David Meyer ZD
  28. MS Office 2007 does fully support O... Albert
  29. ISO Credibility garyedwards
  30. Thank you for an intelligent r... Anonymous123
  31. Of course ODF isn't backwards... Chris Rankin
  32. Then why add "read"... Chris Rankin
  33. 00o writes compliant files Goldie Simmons
  34. You are contradicting Rupert G... Chris Rankin
  35. Terse markup for speed -- NOT Marbux
  36. Tail end of previous comment garyedwards
  37. Cut to the chase garyedwards
  38. ODF also has backwards compati... Albert
  39. MS influencing ODF development... Albert
  40. No, OOo is not fully complient... Albert
  41. MS Office 2007 files fully val... Albert
  42. That's OK, I contradict R... Rupert Goodwins ZD
  43. Widespread support for OOXML a... Albert
  44. Actually OOXML is not really t... Albert
  45. Actually MS Office 2007 compli... Albert
  46. Actually, you're making all th... Chris Rankin
  47. It's a question of greate... Chris Rankin
  48. Questions for the community Goldie Simmons
  49. Do tell me more, Albert Marbux
  50. Albert, give me a single examp... Marbux
  51. Open Standards Moley
  52. If you plan for incompatiblity... Albert
  53. Believe is in the prove Albert
  54. ODF and OOXML are standards in... Marbux
  55. explaination Albert
  56. ODF better readable but less g... Albert
  57. Interoperability Albert
  58. OOXML is Open Albert
  59. Then why does the same spreads... Marbux
  60. Extensions are bugs, not featu... Marbux
  61. OOXML interop is abysmal Marbux
  62. Extensions to ODF realistic ? Albert
  63. Undocumented eXtensions and St... garyedwards
  64. Not 1,500 extensions Marbux
  65. You've got to be kidding,... Marbux

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