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Story: Nasa hacker loses bid to avoid extradition
This is how I came to that conclusion
"That quote to me says something entirely different."
OK lets take a look at it, I think now I understand the context but this is how it comes across (maybe its the differences between the two englishs)
" "US foreign policy is akin to government-sponsored terrorism these days..." SO the US got what it deserved.
"It was not a mistake that there was a huge security stand-down on September 11 last year..." so 9/11 was not a mistake it was the right thing to do.
"I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels."
I am Solo, since the US deserves it and terrorism is not a mistake I will continue to disrupt the US at the highest levels. He is saying he is a cyberterrorist doing his part to disrupt the US.
That is how it comes across, after talking with other people on zdnet UK I think now I know the meaning of what he was saying but that is how it comes across and how I came to that conclusion. I am still not 100% convinced I am wrong though.
Here is the issue, he commited a crime against the US Military after 911 during a time of war. He is not denying this in fact he even says he did it "“I’m not blind to criminality but I was on a moral crusade at the time." He knew what he did was wrong.
I have not heard any credible arguments for him not to be extradited.
here are your arguments:
#1 medical, because he is depressed , gee you think someone who commited a crime and got caught and is facing jail time is depressed? You should tell your represenatives in your House of Lords to release everyone you have in your jails because they are depressed and should not be in jail, that makes no sense to me.
#2 treaty, this argument does not work because well its the law that the US is following. If enough of the UK citizens are against the treaty then they need to make their voices heard and get it changed.
#3 treatment in jail. Jail or prisons are not nice places to be I do admit that, you know why I dont hack the UK's network? I do not want to go to jail or prison. Historically the UK has alot worse of a reputation on human rights the the US has. Tell me what went on in the Tower of London?
#4 He should tried in the UK: a couple of things wrong here, first if his legal represenatives had half a mind they would get the case dimissed because the computers he broke into were owned by americans not the UK and they are located in America and not the UK, the Magistrate could say he has no jurisdiction and dismiss the case. 2. The US waited for him to be prosecuted for a crime in the UK, your legal system did not choose to do it, even though at that time you had the evidence. If they turned down prosecuting him once, what makes you think they would do it again? Which leads me to there is a law in the US called double jeopardy, which means a person can not be charged with the same crime twice. The sad part is if the UK had charged him their would be a good case of double jeopardy and the US could not charge him.
#5 Mercy: The US offered him a 18 month plea deal, he turned it down. That was the US offering him mercy.
#6 Why would the US think he would even go to jail? I hear how he should be tried in the UK and go to jail in the UK, tell me what is so different? Would he not be depressed and maybe suicidal if he went to jail in the UK?
#7 If you believe Asperger's give people the right to do anything they want then tell me where was the outcry for a 21-year-old student In the UK with Asperger's that was only given four months of jail time for possession of 922 pornographic images of children. According to your logic he should be free and it should be ok for this 21 year old student to have porn images of children, just like because gary has
Asperger's it should be ok for him to hack military networks and not face the consequences.
Is their a argument I am missing?
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Story: Nasa hacker loses bid to avoid extradition
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indicative of our governments uncaring attitude gbswales -
"Special" relationship... Nigel Cheffers-Heard -
should serve any potential sentence here in t... ator1940 -
The law is an ass 352096 -
We'll that just says it all.. CA -
Well at least he won't be going to Gitmo! Xwindowsjunkie -
I still think he needs to come to the US to be tri... NoThomas -
How on earth did you come to that conclusion? CA -
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This is how I came to that conclusion NoThomas -
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That was not my intention... NoThomas -
I have read all the arguments and still disagree gbswales -
I appreciate your comments... NoThomas -
we must agree to differ on many issues gbswales -
We can agree to disagree NoThomas -
this article sums things up ni... gbswales -
Putting things in context... Rupert Goodwins
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those are not the questions gbswales -
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understanding victims gbswales -
I do not think its about Pride... NoThomas -
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